Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread Roger Gammans
On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 08:43:53PM -0700, Paul McNett wrote: On a more serious note, rest assured if something practical were affected by our gratuitous use of isinstance(), we'd change it. Usually, we don't care if an object supports an interface, we care if the object is an instance

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread Paul McNett
Paul McNett wrote: Roger Gammans wrote: It is a difficult issue, and isinstance is a easy crutch to fall into using , and I'm sure parts of my own code suffer from this as well. Patches are welcome! :) Specifically, if someone wanted to take this on, I'd want to see some functions added

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread John
On Friday 18 September 2009 06:46:49 am Paul McNett wrote: Paul McNett wrote: Roger Gammans wrote: It is a difficult issue, and isinstance is a easy crutch to fall into using , and I'm sure parts of my own code suffer from this as well. Patches are welcome! :) Specifically, if

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread Paul McNett
John wrote: If the developer is moving from VFP it maybe easier to understand or read. But as the developer becomes used to reading python I see the opposite effect. Why does VFP have anything to do with this? Shorter strings, where each communicates the same meaning, are going to be

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread John
On Friday 18 September 2009 07:54:55 am Paul McNett wrote: John wrote: If the developer is moving from VFP it maybe easier to understand or read. But as the developer becomes used to reading python I see the opposite effect. Why does VFP have anything to do with this? Shorter strings,

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread Paul McNett
John wrote: I disagree with the last statement of easier to read. I've spent more time on this already than my interest level in it. If someone wants to pursue replacing isinstance() with better code that is more interface-based, then they can take this argument up with you. Paul

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-18 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 18, 2009, at 1:30 PM, Paul McNett wrote: I've spent more time on this already than my interest level in it. I got turned off by the considered harmful tone of the article. If it had been simply stated that you should support duck typing wherever possible, or use try/except

[dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-17 Thread lalong1
I don't understand the implications of this article but it may have an impact on dabo in general.. http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/isinstance/ Cheers, Larry Long --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html ---

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-17 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:12 PM, lalo...@charter.net wrote: I don't understand the implications of this article but it may have an impact on dabo in general.. http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/isinstance/ It's simply a matter of purists unable to understand the real world. -- Ed

Re: [dabo-users] Interesting read.

2009-09-17 Thread Paul McNett
Paul McNett wrote: Ed Leafe wrote: On Sep 17, 2009, at 10:12 PM, lalo...@charter.net wrote: I don't understand the implications of this article but it may have an impact on dabo in general.. http://www.canonical.org/~kragen/isinstance/ It's simply a matter of purists unable to