Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-12 Thread toganm
> In article <87txl6lzc8@users.sourceforge.net>, > tog...@users.sourceforge.net writes: > "Madko" == Madko writes: Madko> The problem about squish is that some (at least Fedora/RH) Madko> thinks that distributing patented sources is as harmful as Madko> distributing t

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Montag, 10. Juni 2013, 17:50:44 schrieb Madko: [...] > therefor it's still distributed (within the SRPM). Fedora could decide to > remove darktable from their repos for that :( They are free to remove darktable if they don't like it, no one will try to stop them. Some people really have too

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread toganm
> "Madko" == Madko writes: Madko> The problem about squish is that some (at least Fedora/RH) Madko> thinks that distributing patented sources is as harmful as Madko> distributing the compiled version... Debian's point of view Madko> is that source code is like free speech (at

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
The problem about squish is that some (at least Fedora/RH) thinks that distributing patented sources is as harmful as distributing the compiled version... Debian's point of view is that source code is like free speech (at least in the US), and it's just a description of the invention, not the inven

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread toganm
> "Tobias" == Tobias Ellinghaus writes: Tobias> Most arguments in that bug report are nonsense. It's not a Tobias> matter of user experience, it's just that we added a new Tobias> feature to libraw that we need and that doesn't exist Tobias> upstream. And the latest ups

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Montag, 10. Juni 2013, 14:16:28 schrieb tog...@users.sourceforge.net: > > "Simon" == Simon writes: > Simon> The reasons for not using 0.15 are summarized here: > Simon> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682980 > > Yes but the reasons could be valid for any software

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
perfect :) 2013/6/10 johannes hanika > oh, i only pushed to master, now in darktable-1.2.x, too. > > -jo > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Madko wrote: > >> Thank you Johannes for this clear explaination about libraw. So the best >> solution would be to use rawstudio code, any "plan" to d

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread johannes hanika
oh, i only pushed to master, now in darktable-1.2.x, too. -jo On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Madko wrote: > Thank you Johannes for this clear explaination about libraw. So the best > solution would be to use rawstudio code, any "plan" to do that in future > releases? > > Sorry to come back a

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
Thank you Johannes for this clear explaination about libraw. So the best solution would be to use rawstudio code, any "plan" to do that in future releases? Sorry to come back about squish, I try the -DUSE_SQUISH=OFF with no success: CMake Warning: Manually-specified variables were not used by t

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread johannes hanika
1) white balance for > 16 bit dng: alex doesn't want to support that format at all, in fact our copy of libraw only doesn't crash on it because these files are opened with rawspeed. so he has a point i guess. the clean way to solve this would be on our end not to use libraw to read camera-wb from

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
Do you know why they removed those functionnalities? 2013/6/10 johannes hanika > no, not possible. we need to revert a couple of commits from upsteam to > get back functionality that has been removed over the years. > > -jo > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Madko wrote: > >> Is it possibl

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread johannes hanika
no, not possible. we need to revert a couple of commits from upsteam to get back functionality that has been removed over the years. -jo On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Madko wrote: > Is it possible to build darktable against LibRaw from the system, not > against the one provided in src/exter

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread toganm
> "Simon" == Simon writes: Simon> The reasons for not using 0.15 are summarized here: Simon> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682980 Yes but the reasons could be valid for any software that is needing external libraries and that makes it awkward for the package maint

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Simon
The reasons for not using 0.15 are summarized here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682980 On 06/10/2013 01:38 PM, Madko wrote: > Is it possible to build darktable against LibRaw from the system, not > against the one provided in src/external? > > > 2013/6/10 Jose Carlos Garcia So

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Tobias Ellinghaus
Am Montag, 10. Juni 2013, 11:18:56 schrieb johannes hanika: [...] > >- LibRaw is suffering from a security issue > > not the version we use, ours is too old. There was a fix [0] packported from the 0.15 branch to the 0.14 branch of libraw. I applied it to our copy. Tobias [...] [0] https:/

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
Is it possible to build darktable against LibRaw from the system, not against the one provided in src/external? 2013/6/10 Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Madko wrote: > > Thanks Johannes > > > > about squish and its patented algorithm (DXT), is it right to distribut

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Madko wrote: > Thanks Johannes > > about squish and its patented algorithm (DXT), is it right to distribute it > in your sources tarballs? Yes, it is: http://www.debian.org/reports/patent-faq --

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
Thanks Johannes about squish and its patented algorithm (DXT), is it right to distribute it in your sources tarballs? 2013/6/10 johannes hanika > git checkout master > cmake -DUSE_SQUISH=off > > j. > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM, johannes hanika wrote: > >> >> >- squish is unsuitable f

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread johannes hanika
git checkout master cmake -DUSE_SQUISH=off j. On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:18 AM, johannes hanika wrote: > > >- squish is unsuitable for Fedora, snce it implement s3tc, a patented > algorithm ( found by Nicolas Chauvet ) > > it's optional and switched off by default. i can make it a compile time

Re: [darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread johannes hanika
>- squish is unsuitable for Fedora, snce it implement s3tc, a patented algorithm ( found by Nicolas Chauvet ) it's optional and switched off by default. i can make it a compile time switch if that solves the problem? >- LibRaw is suffering from a security issue not the version we use, ours is to

[darktable-devel] concerns about security and incompatible license

2013-06-10 Thread Madko
Hi, please can someone look at this bug report https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=972604 and tell me if you agree with the reporter (specially the license problem). Thanks -- Edouard Bourguignon -- How ServiceN