Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-18 Thread Kneops
Funny, because when I used DT as my main raw editor I used drawn masks a lot (!), but since I have a LR license and noticed how well and fast sharpness, detail, highlight and shadow recovery work, I have never missed it. ;) Op 18-02-2021 om 22:50 schreef Terry Pinfold: I own licences for Ligh

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread darktable
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:58:39 -0800 David Vincent-Jones wrote: > One thought that I have had is that the mask be displayed in a > continuous range of color ... OK, maybe that sounds mad but this > would allow us to better view the data in the same way that we view > elevations on a map. Years ago

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread David Vincent-Jones
One thought that I have had is that the mask be displayed in a continuous range of color ... OK, maybe that sounds mad but this would allow us to better view the data in the same way that we view elevations on a map. Years ago my business was involved with satellite mapping and we used color se

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread horst
Hi, Terry, all - just to announce I have used the ToneEQ on a couple of images now and I start to like it :-) Once you know how it basically works it is fun to use (albeit lots of surprises may lurk in the dark). (Apolgies to István for totally misspelling köszönöm ... never had to write Hu

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread Bernhard
Terry Pinfold schrieb am 18.02.21 um 22:18: A couple of 'improvements (?)' I would like to see going forward with tone equalizer is to have the mask's histogram on display as I adjust the sliders in the masking tab. At the moment I jump back and forth between the advanced tab and the masking t

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-18 Thread Terry Pinfold
I own licences for Lightroom and the whole suite of Adobe products. I choose Darktable as my preferred editing program because it is so good. I especially love the drawn masks option using the path tool and then the ability to feather the result after the fact to get invisible transitions. On Thu,

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread horst
Hi, István, kösenem, the principle is understood. The ToneEQ-created parameter mask does only indirectly relate the tonal correction to the image areas. The suggested series of parametric masks and related tonal corrections OTOH gives direct control. The ToneEQ-internal mask assigns a certai

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-18 Thread Terry Pinfold
The pixel pipe order is critical and should not be hidden. But for most users and most images the default order is fine. I can give an example of why I change the pixel pipe order. I use Filmic to get the basic look to my image, but then would like to tweak the contrast a little using curves. RGB c

Re: [darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)

2021-02-18 Thread Terry Pinfold
Hi Joerg, I feel this is a very important module. By default it is activated to clip the highlights and prevent a magenta tint. If the highlights are blown try switching the method from clip highlights to reconstruct in LCh and this may recover some details in the blown out highlights. I was amazed

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread Terry Pinfold
Aurelien is a really talented developer that has brought some great features to Darktable including Filmic, Tone Equalizer and I believe Color Calibration. I have been impressed with how he has continued to improve both Filmic and Tone Equalizer to make both of these modules more user friendly and

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread KOVÁCS István
Tone EQ allows you to apply different exposure compensations to different parts of the image. You can achieve a similar effect by creating several instances of exposure, e.g. one without a mask, so set overall brightness; one with +1EV to lift the shadows, with a parametric mask; and one with -1 EV

Re: [darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)

2021-02-18 Thread KOVÁCS István
Turn it off, save as a preset, set the preset to auto-apply. But maybe first try the 'recover in LCh' mode first, it works reasonably well. You can also save that as a preset if you like the results. darktable user mailing

[darktable-user] How to permanently remove highlight reconstruction from the default stack? (3.5)

2021-02-18 Thread Joerg Lippmann
Hi! When one opens a raw file, there are a number of modules already applied (sharpen, filmic rgb, color calibration, etc), most of them are a necessary foundation for all further work. But I really hate the highlight reconstruction module, it almost always creates some green specks around the hig

Re: [darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread Matt Maguire
Yes, I can see how it is confusing -- the luminance-based mask of the tone equaliser versus the drawn/parametric "alpha-channel" mask used in the darktable generic masking and blending function. Unfortunately both these concepts are commonly referred to as a "mask" in the image processing literatur

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-18 Thread Remco Viëtor
On jeudi 18 février 2021 09:54:21 CET Andreas Herold wrote: (...) > In my opinion, the user needs to have a model of the functionality in his > mind. The current discussion is in my opinion an indicator, that DT has > here some room for improvement. Darktable, or its users? The pixel pipe and its

Re: [darktable-user] Still no GUI module order possible?

2021-02-18 Thread Andreas Herold
> Am 18.02.2021 um 06:20 schrieb Bill Wohler : > > Andreas Herold wrote: > >>> Am 17.02.2021 um 06:40 schrieb Bill Wohler : >>> >>> How about a preference to sort the module lists by a) alphabetical b) >>> pixel pipe? I just wish the lists were alphabetical so that they would >>> appear in we

[darktable-user] Tone Equalizer, Mask

2021-02-18 Thread horst
Hi, everybody, I had some difficulty to understand what the term "mask" means with the ToneEQ module. Only after watching Aurelien's tutorial (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzACn3l49HM), in particular the part starting at 20:13, I grasped the idea (which is actually not hard to understa