[darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread GDoirat - GMail
Hello, I intend to change my personnal computer and to build a network at home. I use darktable for long time and i want to put my pictures on a NAS to have more security. I would like to see and use darktable installed on my personnal computer from another laptop or raspberry pi terminal (on tv sc

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread Germano Massullo
Forget using OpenCL without proprietary drivers, but there is a way to use them without having to install it permanently: if you use a Radeon RX card you can simply unpack the proprietary OpenCL driver somewhere and let darktable use it. Concerning hardware, I suggest you to buy a Ryzen CPU and a R

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread J. Paul Bissonnette
A whee bit off topic how is that Ryzen CPU? I use Darktable & Lightworks. On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:26:10 +0200 Germano Massullo wrote: I suggest you to buy a Ryzen CPU and a RX Radeon > graphic card > > darktable user mai

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 22 giu 2017 22:35, "J. Paul Bissonnette" ha scritto: A whee bit off topic how is that Ryzen CPU? I use Darktable & Lightworks. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-1800x-linux&num=6 darktable u

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread Journeyman
On 22/06/2017 22:26, Germano Massullo wrote: Forget using OpenCL without proprietary drivers, but there is a way to use them without having to install it permanently: if you use a Radeon RX card you can simply unpack the proprietary OpenCL driver somewhere and let darktable use it. Concerning har

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-22 Thread J. Paul Bissonnette
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:55:07 +0200 Germano Massullo wrote: > Il 22 giu 2017 22:35, "J. Paul Bissonnette" ha > scritto: > > A whee bit off topic how is that Ryzen CPU? I use Darktable & > Lightworks. > > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-1800x-linux&num=6 > > ___

AW: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Michael Below
V, is calibration possible for a TV backend? Cheers Michael -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Journeyman [mailto:j...@storiepvtride.it] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2017 23:21 An: darktable-user@lists.darktable.org Betreff: Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable On 22/06/2017

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Guillermo Rozas
Hi, On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:10 PM, GDoirat - GMail wrote: > I use darktable for long time and i want to put my pictures on a NAS to have > more security. Do you intend to have the only copy of the pictures on the NAS? In that case I'd recommend you to look at the "Local copies" feature in DT

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Roman Lebedev
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Guillermo Rozas wrote: > Hi, > On 22/06/2017 22:26, Germano Massullo wrote: >> Forget using OpenCL without proprietary drivers, but there is a way to >> use them without having to install it permanently: if you use a Radeon >> RX card you can simply unpack the pro

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Guillermo Rozas
>> Honest question: what is the sense of doing this? If one is using the >> open source drive on "moral grounds", taking the OpenCL blob from it >> and using it when convenient doesn't make it any less closed. I >> confess that I don't know the status of the proprietary drivers for >> AMD, are they

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 23/06/2017 14:36, Guillermo Rozas ha scritto: >> Forget using OpenCL without proprietary drivers, but there is a way to >> use them without having to install it permanently: if you use a Radeon >> RX card you can simply unpack the proprietary OpenCL driver somewhere >> and let darktable use it.

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Germano Massullo [06-23-17 09:08]: > Il 23/06/2017 14:36, Guillermo Rozas ha scritto: > >> Forget using OpenCL without proprietary drivers, but there is a way to > >> use them without having to install it permanently: if you use a Radeon > >> RX card you can simply unpack the proprietary OpenCL

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Šarūnas
On 2017-06-23 08:57, Guillermo Rozas wrote: >>> Honest question: what is the sense of doing this? If one is using the >>> open source drive on "moral grounds", taking the OpenCL blob from it >>> and using it when convenient doesn't make it any less closed. I >>> confess that I don't know the status

AW: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Michael Below
Hi, Guillermo wrote: >> If I get your proposed configuration right, this might mean installing a 4GB >> gaming graphics card on a >> headless system -- I think it is worth it. But I wonder if it is possible to >> get the colors right on a TV, >> is calibration possible for a TV backend? > Ca

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Remco Viëtor
On vendredi 23 juin 2017 14:57:05 CEST Guillermo Rozas wrote: > >> Honest question: what is the sense of doing this? If one is using the > >> open source drive on "moral grounds", taking the OpenCL blob from it > >> and using it when convenient doesn't make it any less closed. I > >> confess that I

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Heieis
To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install --compute, which just installs opencl support On 2017-06-

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Guillermo Rozas
Thanks for the (many) answers about the closed/open AMD drivers. The message I get then is that the proprietary drivers from AMD have an awful support from the company on Linux (at least compared with the very good support from NVidia). Best regards, Guillermo On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Chr

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Peter Mc Donough
Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install --compute, which just installs opencl support This is as simple as it should be! I had

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Michael Below
Hi, Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 19:11:21 CEST schrieb Peter Mc Donough : > Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: > > To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current > > CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). > > > > Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install --comput

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Peter Mc Donough
Am 23.06.2017 um 23:04 schrieb Michael Below: Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 19:11:21 CEST schrieb Peter Mc Donough : Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). Unpack it and then under root run .

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-23 Thread Mark Heieis
Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install --compute, which just installs opencl support This is as simple as it should be! Sorr

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Michael Below
Hi, Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 16:44:33 CEST schrieb Mark Heieis : > >> Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: > >>> To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current > >>> CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). > >>> > >>> Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install -

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Peter Mc Donough
Am 24.06.2017 um 15:02 schrieb Michael Below: Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 16:44:33 CEST schrieb Mark Heieis : Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). Unpack it and then under root run ./amggp

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le samedi 24 juin 2017 à 16:17 +0200, Peter Mc Donough a écrit : > What is the difference whether I use a closed source software > (Nvidia) to a closed source software (AMD)? Look at history. We had big troubles with AMD dropping support for many GPU (and not that old!) and providing a package tha

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Guillermo Rozas
I would add that NVidia has a clear timeline for legacy support (http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142). Also, NVidia is investing billions (yes, with "b") in machine learning computation using GPUs, and pushing hard for everybody to run CUDA on top of that. The only way to get C

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Šarūnas Burdulis
On 06/24/2017 10:40 AM, Pascal Obry wrote: > [...] > NVIDIA has proved up to know to be more respectful to the Linux > community. I'm running Debian/Unstable for years and using nvidia- > kernel Debian package without issue on recent kernels. Did you have a chance to try it with mainline kernels

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Pascal Obry
Le samedi 24 juin 2017 à 10:57 -0400, Šarūnas Burdulis a écrit : > Did you have a chance to try it with mainline kernels [1]? For me > nvidia module compilation failed for both 4.11 and 4.12 RC (I didn't > look into details). No I didn't try. As I said I'm running Debian/Unstable and there we have

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 24/06/2017 15:02, Michael Below ha scritto: > Hi, > > Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 16:44:33 CEST > schrieb Mark Heieis : > Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: > To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current > CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). > > U

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Šarūnas Burdulis
On 06/24/2017 11:51 AM, Germano Massullo wrote: > Il 24/06/2017 15:02, Michael Below ha scritto: >> Hi, >> >> Am Fr 23 Jun 2017 16:44:33 CEST >> schrieb Mark Heieis : >> > Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: >> To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current >>

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Mark Heieis
I fail to see the problem and why it's a "no" and a "hack", as it is just installing support libs as far as I can tell. It's been working for me (RX480) since amdgpu-pro16.x using out-of-the-box Fedora 25. Please explain how it would break, I'd like to understand. Worst case, you just have to re

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Ulrich Pegelow
Am 24.06.2017 um 19:48 schrieb Mark Heieis: So in conclusion, pick the HW you are comfortable with, which flavour of linux you want, and what it requires to provide the functionality you want, and go from there, knowing that if chosen correctly, you can get the functionality desired. Because at

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Šarūnas Burdulis [06-24-17 11:01]: > On 06/24/2017 10:40 AM, Pascal Obry wrote: > > [...] > > NVIDIA has proved up to know to be more respectful to the Linux > > community. I'm running Debian/Unstable for years and using nvidia- > > kernel Debian package without issue on recent kernels. > > Di

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread darktable
On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 16:57:44 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote: >I am running 4.11.6 on openSUSE Tw with NVidia 381.22 built from >NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-381.22.run w/o any problem past adding to the >commandline, --install-libglvnd In archlinux and the derivatives like manjaro, using: yaourt amdgpu-p

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-24 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* darkta...@911networks.com [06-24-17 21:45]: > On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 16:57:44 -0400 > Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > >I am running 4.11.6 on openSUSE Tw with NVidia 381.22 built from > >NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-381.22.run w/o any problem past adding to the > >commandline, --install-libglvnd > > In ar

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-27 Thread GDoirat - GMail
Hi, Thanks a lot for all your answers. To summarize : - Proc : AMD Ryzen . I have today Intel® Pentium® Processor E2200 (2007!). Darktable works not so bad when you work on one picture, but it's really awful when you're in lighttable for calculting thumbnail! - Graphic card : Forget f

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-27 Thread darktable
On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 23:15:09 +0200 GDoirat - GMail wrote: >To summarize : > > - Proc : AMD Ryzen . I have today Intel® Pentium® Processor E2200 > (2007!). Darktable works not so bad when you work on one picture, > but it's really awful when you're in lighttable for calculting > thumbnail! Yo

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-06-27 Thread GDoirat - GMail
What do you think about this ? Is this good? is this "linux friendly"? Is graphic card not to high ? Is graphic card is suitable for picture editing in darkroom (I don't play a lot so)? [image: Images intégrées 2] 2017-06-27 23:15 GMT+02:00 GDoirat - GMail : > Hi, > Thanks a lot for all your answ

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-07-15 Thread Peter Mc Donough
Am 24.06.2017 um 17:51 schrieb Germano Massullo: ... Am 23.06.2017 um 17:01 schrieb Mark Heieis: To get AMD opencl on newer cards in Fedora 25, download current CentOS/RHEL amdgpu pro driver (17.10.). [...] Unpack it and then under root run ./amggpu-pro-install --compute, which just instal

Re: [darktable-user] Which config for Darktable

2017-07-15 Thread Germano Massullo
Il 15 lug 2017 10:45 AM, "Peter Mc Donough" ha scritto: Does the procedure also work with Fedora 26? It should work darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable