Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
Oh right, that was it. Now there is profiled noise reduction and it does appear to work significantly better than using the profiled noise reduction without a profile. I still can't get a usable image because the original is just too out of whack, but DT has done pretty great job. I'm losing a lot

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread johannes hanika
are you trying that with a clean import? dt will not read your exif data again from file if there is already something in the db. try removing it from db and reimporting (maybe close dt in between, just to be sure). -jo On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Jiew Peng Lim wrote: > > On 9 June 2013 1

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
On 9 June 2013 18:55, HaJo Schatz wrote: > Last time I've checked there was an open bug that DT doesn't interpret DNG > EXIF data correctly. Field names are different between eg CR2 and DNG. Not > sure what exactly DT makes of it, but I've experienced it doesn't play > nicely with DNGs converted

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread johannes hanika
you mant to set maker, too (not just model). isn't there a command to copy the whole blob? j. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Jiew Peng Lim wrote: > I fully agree that exposing the full list of noise profiles is not a good > thing to do, but perhaps something to filter by camera brand>model>I

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread johannes hanika
exif data comes straight from libexiv2. in case libraw is used to open your image, we use that instead (used to be more up to date). possible that that introduces inconsistencies. i've disabled libraw exif data, let's see if we get complaints. j. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:55 PM, HaJo Schatz wr

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread HaJo Schatz
It may not be that easy, actually. Last time I've checked there was an open bug that DT doesn't interpret DNG EXIF data correctly. Field names are different between eg CR2 and DNG. Not sure what exactly DT makes of it, but I've experienced it doesn't play nicely with DNGs converted from CR2. --

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
I fully agree that exposing the full list of noise profiles is not a good thing to do, but perhaps something to filter by camera brand>model>ISO could work. I've tried editing the exif using exiv2, but darktable doesn't read those values somehow. Or am I doing it wrong? I'm running these commands

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread johannes hanika
yeah, no exif data, no denoising for you. could you copy over the exif using exiv2 from the commandline maybe? exposing the full list of noise profiles will fill your screen and be of little use to anyone else.. jo On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Jiew Peng Lim wrote: > It hasn't? Last I rememb

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Markus Jung
Looks like if you haven't applied luma-denoising yet? Add a second instance of profiled denoising, using the non-local-means-algorithm and apply it with lightness-blending. Regards, Markus Am 09.06.2013 11:31, schrieb Julian J. M.: > I've tried your suggestion, but *it seems* I get more noise th

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
I got the same results as Julian. Enabling the hot pixel removal module helps a bit, but there is indeed more noise when using wavelets with color blend mode. It seems to just change the colour of the noise to green. On 9 June 2013 17:51, Pascal Obry wrote: > Julian, > > > I've tried your sugge

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Julian J. M.
No, justo tries and it removes some of the blown pixels, but the overall impression is the same. The only difference between the two pictures I linked, is the activation of the denoise profile. BTW, maybe I was expecting a significant reduction in in perceived noise. It's clear that it's doing so

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
It hasn't? Last I remembered, enabling the profile automatically selected my camera and my ISO (I'm talking about .CR2 files). I'm using the Canon 60D. However, the profiles cannot be selected manually. This is where it fails for images that do not have EXIF data, like the DNGs which I extract from

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Pascal Obry
Julian, > I've tried your suggestion, but *it seems* I get more noise than in the > original image... Am i missing anything? > > Before: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufpaxdc0i8riiet/Darktable_noise_1.png > After: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhz0xiv0z4k20e9/Darktable_noise_2.png I don't see more noise

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread johannes hanika
your camera has not been profiled, you're using the generic preset which is expected to give terrible results. -jo On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Julian J. M. wrote: > I've tried your suggestion, but *it seems* I get more noise than in the > original image... Am i missing anything? > > Before

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Julian J. M.
I've tried your suggestion, but *it seems* I get more noise than in the original image... Am i missing anything? Before: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufpaxdc0i8riiet/Darktable_noise_1.png After: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhz0xiv0z4k20e9/Darktable_noise_2.png Julian. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:40 AM,

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
I have tried the profile denoising with wavelets, but blending with color gives me more noise somehow. Blending with coloradjustment however, removes most of the noise but leaves the image looking like an ugly watercolour effect. I suppose there is nothing much I can do to make the image usable, bu

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-09 Thread Pascal Obry
Jiew, > Yes, it looks absolutely terrible. Yes terrible. But same answer than previous post on this mailing list. I have activated the denoise profiles, using wavelet strength 4.0 and an uniform blending using the color channel. Most noise is removed. Using the hot-pixel removal module will hel

Re: [Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-08 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
If anyone is interested in an example of a DNG file that I'm having trouble doing noise reduction with, here it is: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzFGDdZw7pVwQWdQaXFKSkNiN3c/edit?usp=sharing Yes, it looks absolutely terrible. It's part of a time lapse video I shot using Magic Lantern's RAW HDR v

[Darktable-users] Profiled Noise Reduction

2013-06-08 Thread Jiew Peng Lim
Hi, I'm using Magic Lantern to do RAW HDR video, and basically the camera takes the video in RAW format and you extract the individual frames as DNG files. When I import them into DT (actually I just import one frame to edit and then call darktable-cli to export everything), there is no option to