Andy,

opening /dev/mem O_RDWR|O_SYNC should be enough to map the region
uncached and with the write buffer disabled. In that case, every read
and write into the memory mapped region directly translates into a CPU
access to the respective physical address. No need to call msync before
or after.

Andy Ngo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks to everyone for your responses and suggestions.  I still have a
> questions about reads.  When I do a read from the mmaped region, how
> do I know if they values are valid (not stale data)?  For example, if
> the FPGA microblaze processor on the other side writes, let's say 32
> bytes, to the shared RAM, then interrupts the Davinci to read them,
> are those 32 bytes valid when my user application accesses those bytes
> via the mmaped pointer?  Does the /dev/mem driver access the real
> shared RAM on every read access or do I have to call msync every time
> I do a read to guarantee the data are valid?  Thanks!
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Roberto Waltman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "davinci-linux-open-source @linux.davincidsp.com"
> <davinci-linux-open-source@linux.davincidsp.com>
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:54:39 AM
> Subject: Re: mmap issue
>
>
> Sorry, I misread the original post.  We had a similar, but not identical
> problem.
> In our case, CPU writes to control registers in an external FPGA were
> not being propagated correctly.
> Still, the same solution may work (dummy writes followed by reads?)
>
> Also:
> Andy Ngo wrote:
> > 1) If I need the writes to be real-time (immediately flushed out to
> the shared RAM), do I have to call msync every single time I do a
> write?  If this is the case, isn't this very inefficient? Does msync
> have to check the whole 0x20000 range to check what bytes need to be
> flushed?
>
> You can tell msync() to synchronize only the same area modified in the
> write. If this is "inefficient" or not, only you can tell.  msync() may
> not be necessary for memory access, as opposed to access to memory
> mapped files.
>
> > 3) I tried using MAP_PRIVATE and it doesn't seem to map to the shared
> RAM space at all (mmap doesn't return an error but I can't write or read
> from it).  Is there anyway to force the mechanism behind mmap (driver
> for /dev/mem ?) to force a flush everytime the ARM writes to shared RAM
> without having to call msync?
>
> I thought about writing a special driver similar to /dev/mem, but with
> that property as well as only using the right word size (16 bits in our
> case)
>
>
> Roberto Waltman wrote:
> > R. Simning wrote:
> >> Andy Ngo wrote:
> >>> ..... the FPGA Microblaze write values to the shared RAM, and when
> >>> our ARM processor on the Davinci reads them during the interrupt
> >>> processing, the data looks staled (as though from previous reads).
> > ...
> >>  I thought the declaration of a variable as "volatile" would force
> >> the value to always be read directly from RAM, never cache. I'm not
> >> clear whether declaring a variable "volatile" forces the write to
> >> RAM, but that case doesn't seem to be an issue here.
> >>
> >> I would believe that just declaring those data structures as
> >> "volatile" should resolve your cache issues of reading "stale" data.
> >
> > No, that only tells the compiler not to optimize-out references to a
> > variable, always fetching a new value from "memory" when necessary.  
> > The compiler has no knowledge if the value is fetched from actual
> > memory, from an internal or external cache, or if it is out of sync
> > with a second CPU's view, etc.
> >
> > We went through the same problem recently, one of my colleagues found
> > the answer:
> >
> > (a) Declare all variables in the mapped area as volatile, and
> > (b) Do a readback immediately after writing to mapped memory, to force
> > flushing the cache.
> >
> > See  http://www.arm.com/pdfs/DDI0198D_926_TRM.pdf,  chapter 4, in
> > particular section 4.2, for the rationale behind this.
> >
> >
> > Roberto Waltman
> >
> >
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