Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 10:29:42PM +0100, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Edward Shryane via db-wg wrote on 07/07/2021 15:05: > > So 23456 is*not* excluded, but it can be if the DB-WG agrees. > > just to be clearer: AS23456 should be included in the list of ASNs which > cannot be used as the origin.

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Nick Hilliard via db-wg
Edward Shryane via db-wg wrote on 07/07/2021 15:05: So 23456 is*not* excluded, but it can be if the DB-WG agrees. just to be clearer: AS23456 should be included in the list of ASNs which cannot be used as the origin. Any objects which refer to it should be flagged for deletion. Nick

Re: [db-wg] blocking '23456' as value for the origin attribubte in route/route6 objects?

2021-07-07 Thread Nick Hilliard via db-wg
Cynthia Revström via db-wg wrote on 07/07/2021 15:44: I think that AS23456 should be excluded as I can't think of any good reason for having such a route object and seemingly no one else either as there are none currently. at one point years ago, before asn32s-capable software was widely

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects

2021-07-07 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:16:20PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg wrote: > Job Snijders wrote: > >Should the database server software impose brittle restrictions > >on that field? No, not worth the headache. > > I never suggested any changes to the data base software. I think you are,

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects

2021-07-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg
Job Snijders wrote: >Should the database server software impose brittle restrictions >on that field? No, not worth the headache. I never suggested any changes to the data base software. I have merely suggested that *existing* route objects that make reference to bogon ASNs should be deleted

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg
In message , Job Snijders wrote: >However, the following two restrictions are not optimal in my opinion. > >> Who is insisting that the RIPE data base should be effectively endorsing >> the *public* use of ASNs that have -never- been assigned by any RIR to >> any party? >> >> Who is insisting

Re: [db-wg] blocking '23456' as value for the origin attribubte in route/route6 objects?

2021-07-07 Thread Cynthia Revström via db-wg
Hi Job, I just replied to the previous thread regarding this so I have reposted it below (summary: +1/LGTM) I think that AS23456 should be excluded as I can't think of any good reason for having such a route object and seemingly no one else either as there are none currently.

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Cynthia Revström via db-wg
Hi Ed, I think that AS23456 should be excluded as I can't think of any good reason for having such a route object and seemingly no one else either as there are none currently. https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/query?bflag=false=false=origin=true=AS23456=RIPE So assuming that I didn't mess up

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Edward Shryane via db-wg
Hi Job, > On 7 Jul 2021, at 15:08, Job Snijders via db-wg wrote: > > Hi Working Group, > > I'd like to clarify my position, Ronald lists three restrictions, the > totality of those restrictions is what I consider brittle. > > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 06:57:20PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette via

[db-wg] blocking '23456' as value for the origin attribubte in route/route6 objects?

2021-07-07 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
Good news everyone, most of the work was already done! :-) On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:08:18PM +, Job Snijders via db-wg wrote: > On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 06:57:20PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg wrote: > > Who is insisting that the RIPE data base should be effectively endorsing > > the

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
Hi Working Group, I'd like to clarify my position, Ronald lists three restrictions, the totality of those restrictions is what I consider brittle. On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 06:57:20PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette via db-wg wrote: > Who is insisting that the RIPE data base should be effectively

Re: [db-wg] Further cleanup (was: RIPE NONAUTH route(6) objects using unregistered space cleanup - deployment *today*)

2021-07-07 Thread Job Snijders via db-wg
Hi Ronald, It is a matter of feasibility. In this context, at this layer of the technology stack it is up to the database clients to filter out information they do not consider of interest. The database is merely a conduit between an authorized internet number resource holder and the database