Re: [DBpedia-discussion] where to find things in the new DBpedia distrib

2018-10-26 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
DBpedia HTML interface, we will link to the provenance view > > > Note that we will also allow outside datasets to be linked and advertised soon > (January), see the prototype here: > http://kurzum.net/dbpedia_banner/Siemens.html > > Cheers, > > Sebastian > >

[DBpedia-discussion] where to find things in the new DBpedia distrib

2018-10-26 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
A big hurrah about the new DBpedia releases, as announced in https://blog.dbpedia.org/2018/10/17/the-release-circle-a-glimpse-behind-the-scenes/ Is there documentation on what shows up where in http://downloads.dbpedia.org/repo/lts/ For example, where can I find triples that look like dbr:Ronald

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] status of DBpedia live

2018-09-12 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
lts forever, > others in /dev/. dev data will be deleted after a year or so. > > All the best, > Sebastian > > On September 12, 2018 5:50:27 AM GMT+02:00, "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" > wrote: > > Hi: > > Thanks for the answers. > > So

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] status of DBpedia live

2018-09-11 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
to download and self install > > - professional support for running it locally > > - paid service (with a reduction for members) to make it more reliable.  > > Actually, it is almost a classical open source model. > > All the best, > > Sebastian > > >

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] dbpedia developers' discussion on slack

2018-09-11 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
ere > <https://dbpedia-slack.herokuapp.com/> to sign in! > > Best, > > Julia > > > Am 11.09.2018 um 10:42 schrieb Elmahdi Korfed: >> Hi Peter, >> >> You can use the sourceforge to access archive emails >> https://sourceforge.net/p/dbpedia/mailman/message/36

[DBpedia-discussion] dbpedia developers' discussion on slack

2018-09-10 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
In the developers' mailing list there is a comment about moving communication to a channel on slack. How can I look at the archives of that channel? peter ___ DBpedia-discussion mailing list DBpedia-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourc

[DBpedia-discussion] status of DBpedia live

2018-09-06 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Hi: It seems that DBpedia live hasn't been updating since May. The most recent changeset at http://live.dbpedia.org/changesets/ is from 17 May. Is DBpedia live dead, or is it just resting? peter -- Check out the vibran

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Maintaining vs. Innovating

2017-09-25 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
As I am just in the middle of trying to put together a high-quality information base using DBpedia 2016-10, I'll vote strongly for more-frequent extractions at the expense of dropping some of the datasets. The problem that I have run into is that there are some major errors in at least the Italian

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] quality of mapping-based information in DBpedia version of 2016-10

2017-09-25 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
gy and mappings. > Since you already spotted some mappings mistakes, I would kindly ask you > to contribute and edit the mappings to your contentment. As I stated above, I don't have the linguistic expertise to completely understand what is going on in most languages, so I am leery abo

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] quality of mapping-based information in DBpedia version of 2016-10

2017-09-22 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
the creation of template (stumps), based on similar templates in > other languages > 3. DBpedia fusion and type generation heuristics > > Sorry, don't have time to expand on this today. > > Best, > > Markus Freudenberg > > Release Manager, DBpedia <http://wi

[DBpedia-discussion] quality of mapping-based information in DBpedia version of 2016-10

2017-09-21 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
these parts of DBpedia. That's regrettable, as I would like to include as much information as possible. But what is really problematic is that now I don't see how I can count on any DBpedia information. What is the way forward h

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] roadmap to the 2016-10 dumps

2017-09-01 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
as wrote: > Hello Peter, > > some minor comments inline > > On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 3:39 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > mailto:pfpschnei...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Well what I was trying to do was to figure out just which of the DBpedia > files I need to com

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] roadmap to the 2016-10 dumps

2017-08-30 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
As it is, I don't know how long >> the page will take to load, if it will load. Is it stuck in such a way >> that a refresh will fix it? Is it not compatible with >> (Edge|Chrome|Firefox|Safari|...) >> >> I am left pining for the bad old days of HTML pages (n

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] roadmap to the 2016-10 dumps

2017-08-25 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
are either temporary > files which need not be published. > > Best, > > Markus Freudenberg > > Release Manager, DBpedia <http://wiki.dbpedia.org> > > On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 3:37 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > mailto:pfpschnei...@gmail.com>> wrote: > &

[DBpedia-discussion] roadmap to the 2016-10 dumps

2017-08-24 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Hi: Is there a roadmap to the 2016-10 dumps. I'm having trouble finding some of the stuff that I think should be there (particularly the links to Wikidata). Or maybe there are files that should have content but don't. downloads.dbpedia.org/2016-10/core-i18n/wikidata/wikipedia_links_wikidata.ttl.

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Purpose of the DBpedia Ontology was Re: Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-23 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
disjoint union of several other classes. If there is a need for such definitions anyway then the cost of using a powerful ontology language is paid already so it may as well be also used to define classes in terms of property values. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Purpose of the DBpedia Ontology was Re: Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-17 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
One reason to have a subclass structure under Person (but also under any natural kind) is to support generalizations for subcategories. Many of the subclasses of Person in DBpedia are for occupations, e.g., Architect, Athlete, NascarDriver, Politician, and Senator. If these subclasses of Person a

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] ANN: DBpedia version 2016-10 released

2017-07-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
p://dbpedia.org/ontology/schoolPatron> <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#subPropertyOf> <http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/ont/dul/DUL.owl#sameSettingAs> . How have such questionable statements ended up in the DBpedia

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
ontology matches Wikipedia. The current DBpedia is not nonsense. The density of errors is quite low. I would certainly like for there to be fewer errors in DBpedia and, in particular, that Wikipedia infelicities that are identified by using DBpedia are fixed in Wikipedia. > - Jeff peter &g

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Purpose of the DBpedia Ontology was Re: Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-14 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
> to doctrine, etc. > > It is definitely not an area you will get complete agreement on! > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Peter F. Patel-Schneider" > To: "Sebastian Hellmann" > Cc: "DBpedia" > Sent: 7/14/2017 12:31:40 PM > Sub

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-14 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
x27;t state it (primeness of numbers for example). By the way, superclasses would have a subset of the properties of their subclasses, not a superset. Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications -- Check out the vi

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-14 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Where is the parallel cleanup of the ontology happening? peter On 07/05/2017 08:58 AM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: > Hi John, > > > On 05.07.2017 17:43, John Flynn wrote: >> >> I have long been curious about the DBpedia ontology structure so I just took >> a look at the ontology represented in >>

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] DBpedia Mappings Front-End Administration (SHACL validation for Ontologies)

2017-07-14 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
What are examples of SHACL-like constraints that could be used in the ontology cleanup? Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications On 06/27/2017 03:28 AM, Sebastian Hellmann wrote: > Hi Ismael, all, > > we were brainstorming for a while now and your Google Summer of Code projec

Re: [DBpedia-discussion] Purpose of the DBpedia Ontology was Re: Call for Ontology Editor demos for DBpedia

2017-07-14 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
thological beings who have different fathers in different accounts. Nevertheless it is useful to state that father is functional. What then to do about spouse? I'm not sure. > All the best, > Sebastian Peter F. Patel-Schneider Nuance Communications ---

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] Advancing the DBpedia ontology

2015-02-26 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Wikipedia articles. (Wikipedia does identify churches with buildings, but at least using this the informal definition of a church would let DBpedia contributors know what a DBpedia church should be.) peter On 02/24/2015 08:15 PM, Vladimir Alexiev wrote: >> From: Peter F. Patel-Schneider [

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] [Dbpedia-ontology] Advancing the DBpedia ontology

2015-02-18 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I agree that there are problems with the mappings. However, how can the mappings be fixed without fixing the ontology? peter On 02/18/2015 05:03 AM, Vladimir Alexiev wrote: > Hi everyone! > > My presentations from the Dublin meeting are at > > -

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] Advancing the DBpedia ontology

2015-01-24 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
tracted data so we definitely want them. For the rest, we > are open to suggestions and this is one of the reasons we invite ontology > experts to participate. > > Best, Dimitris > > On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 5:47 AM, Peter F. Patel-Schneider > mailto:pfpschnei...@gmail.com>

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] Advancing the DBpedia ontology

2015-01-23 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Good points all, I think. As well I would like to know what expressive power is being considered for the ontology language. For example, will disjointness axioms be allowed, or local ranges, or constraints? peter On 01/23/2015 12:23 PM, Nicolas To

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] ANN: Mapping Sprint for DBpedia 3.10 Release until June 30th

2014-05-30 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Along these lines, there are some questionable mappings in DBpedia. One in particular, is for the building infobox, which is overused in English Wikipedia. In particular, the Eiffel Tower Wikipedia entry uses this infobox even though the Eiffel Tower is the most prominent non-building on http:

[Dbpedia-discussion] A detailed analysis of the ArchitecturalStructure portion of the DBpedia ontology, proposals included

2014-04-19 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Wikipedia defines building as "a man-made structure with a roof and walls standing more or less permanently in one place" and "intended for human use or occupation" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building]. Wikipedia also suggests examining http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonbuilding_structure for exam

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist

2014-04-19 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
I agree that a way forward would be to use a well-defined ontology, and set up themappings from infoboxes to map into that ontologyinstead of the DBpedia ontology. This would require, I think, a more powerfulmapping technology, one that can use arbitrary combinations of the infobox information

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist

2014-04-19 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
Deferring to Wikipedia is definitely one of the things that DBpedia should do, but that cannot be done completely blindly. For example, Guantanamo Naval Base uses the military structure infobox, but there is no way that the entire base can be considered to be a military structure.Either a diffe

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] probably incorrect mapping to schema.org from MusicalArtist

2014-04-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
I agree that it seems harder to crowdsource ontologies. However, Wikipedia seems to have a half-decent organization, so maybe it is possible. My view is that Wikipedia is succeeding, and not just in overall organization, because there are Wikipedia editors that challenge and remove incorrect an

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] editor rights

2014-04-15 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
pfps (see also below). peter On 04/15/2014 04:20 PM, Alexandru Todor wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > Please tell us your user name in the mappings wiki so we can assign you > editor rights. > > Cheers, > Alexandru > > On Apr 16, 2014 2:04 AM, "Patel-Schneider, Peter" > mailto:peter.patel-schnei...@nua

Re: [Dbpedia-discussion] A quick analysis of the classes in the DBpedia ontology

2014-04-13 Thread Peter F. Patel-Schneider
On 04/13/2014 06:32 AM, Dimitris Kontokostas wrote: > Hello, > > Regarding class usage, the Dutch chapter does a great job already and > Magnus' query returns no results;) [1] > This means that all classes are needed at the moment. > > Regarding the changes, I am also in favor to move forward and