Re: [dccp] New I-D revision: TFRC with sender-RTT estimate

2010-08-23 Thread Michael Welzl
On Aug 23, 2010, at 7:28 AM, Gerrit Renker wrote: Later, Gerrit wrote: It is a chicken-and-egg problem. In its current form, the TFRC implementation buys no compelling performance advantage over using UDP. (let's ignore the word "performance" here, I think it doesn't quite fit - but it

Re: [dccp] New I-D revision: TFRC with sender-RTT estimate - author position

2010-08-23 Thread Gorry Fairhurst
I'll try to respond to this on behalf of the authors, here is what I think: * This seems a straight-forward piece of work that could be implemented quickly too. It has been raised before, but I think now would be an excellent time to progress this. It needs to be PS and should take one IETF-c

Re: [dccp] New I-D revision: TFRC with sender-RTT estimate

2010-08-23 Thread Saverio Mascolo
what the applications that would need TFRC today? everything seems handled by TCP or UDP... On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Gerrit Renker wrote: >> Later, Gerrit wrote: >> >> > It is a chicken-and-egg problem. In its current form, the TFRC >> implementation buys no compelling performance advanta

Re: [dccp] New I-D revision: TFRC with sender-RTT estimate

2010-08-23 Thread Emmanuel Lochin
On 23 August 2010 15:00, Saverio Mascolo wrote: > what the applications that would need TFRC today? everything seems > handled by TCP or UDP... and everything seems handled by Microsoft ... so why looking at new transport protocols ;) > On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Gerrit Renker wrote: >>>

Re: [dccp] New I-D revision: TFRC with sender-RTT estimate

2010-08-23 Thread Ian McDonald
On 23 August 2010 19:01, Emmanuel Lochin wrote: > > On 23 August 2010 15:00, Saverio Mascolo wrote: > > what the applications that would need TFRC today? everything seems > > handled by TCP or UDP... > > and everything seems handled by Microsoft ... so why looking at new > transport protocols ;)