Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-30 Thread Arjuna Sathiaseelan
Please see inline.. > [Tom P.] Well, this isn't a very interesting case -- the app has > voluntarily switched to a lower rate? Yes that's right -- I just gave an example on how a CCID-3 sender could grow its sending rate.. >The interesting case is when the > app has been forced to switch to t

Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-30 Thread Phelan, Tom
; 'Pasi Sarolahti' > Subject: Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas > > > Dear Bryan, > > Some thoughts here..Please see inline. > > > 1. The CC algorithm should NOT increase the rate/window allowance > > significantly beyond the amount of data actually being

Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-29 Thread Arjuna Sathiaseelan
and ICCRG to work together on these sorts > > of things. > > > > Tom P. > > > > > > From: dccp-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dccp-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf > > Of Arjuna Sathiaseelan > > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 200

Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Ford
idea as I understand it is for DCCP and ICCRG to work together on these sorts of things. Tom P. From: dccp-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dccp-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Arjuna Sathiaseelan Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:55 PM To: 'Bryan Ford'; 'Pasi Sarolahti'

Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-29 Thread Phelan, Tom
dccp-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:dccp-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Arjuna Sathiaseelan Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:55 PM To: 'Bryan Ford'; 'Pasi Sarolahti'; dccp@ietf.org Cc: go...@erg.abdn.ac.uk Subject: Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas Dear Bryan,   DCCP’s CCID’s do probe f

Re: [dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-29 Thread Arjuna Sathiaseelan
Dear Bryan, DCCP's CCID's do probe for capacity for e.g. CCID 3 (which follows TFRC) would allow the sender to send upto twice the receiver rate or that allowed by the throughput equation (which ever is small) and hence its upto the application to decide whether to retract back to its orig

[dccp] DCCP work ideas

2009-07-29 Thread Bryan Ford
In response to Pasi's tsvarea talk on where to go next with DCCP, I would like to offer two ideas for future DCCP work that could increase the its likelihood becoming widely used for something. 1. Get involved in the nascent multipath TCP work and develop a way to use DCCP as a better subfl