I just noticed that the set list alleged to be 8/29 is under the following:
Band Grateful Dead Venue Unknown Venue Location Unknown, Unknown Date ??/??/68 - Monday posters tickets, passes & laminates One Saint Stephen [#2:40] > Cryptical Envelopment [1:42] > Drums (1) [0:14] > The Other One [4:28] > Cryptical Envelopment [6:03] > New Potato Caboose [10:46] > Alligator [3:20] > Drums [6:19] > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) [11:29#] Comments (1) At 3:56 into the Drums after Alligator, they start singing Alligator vocals, and at 4:35 in to it Jerry joins in with a Caution type solo. Although this fragment circulates as "Fall 1968", "3/22/68 Detroit", and "May 1968", it is from an unlabeled reel. There is an entry for this set list on p. 164 of Volume 1 of the Deadhead's taping Compendium. According to Rob Eaton: "There were 5 unlabeled 7 inch reels found in the Vault many years ago. Several contained very early versions of Stephen. The tape you describe is one of these unknown reels. The best estimate for a date would be April/May 1968 or spring '68." And the source mentioned below has the exact same cuts/timings/list as this one. This source sounds very much the 'very early version of Stephen' mentioned above, so would think it's more likely Spring '68 - sounds nothing like the versions from August. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McLeod, Iver J Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 6:24 AM To: 'Dave S'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 8/29/68? My source info is what is shown at http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=52, contributed by Darrin Sacks. There is another source for 8/23/68 at etree, shnid=1417, that is referred to as "TFTV Leftovers" and consists only of Alligator through Caution. When you say "this is a studio recording" are you referring to only that portion referred to as 8/29/68? Thanks, Iver > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 2:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: 8/29/68? > > > Iver - > > I've never heard of this one refered to as "8/29/68" or "8/23/68". > Perhaps this is an error specific to the info that came with your cds? > > This is a studio recording from perhaps March or thereabouts. LIsten > carefully - there's no audience. :-) > > It sounds a lot like material that's on the album - but with > a different > mix (the organ is really pumped up). > > > Dave S. > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2004 10:23:31 -0500 > > From: "McLeod, Iver J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: 8/29/68? > > > > The info file for 8/23/68 indicates the first disc is mostly > > > > "Unknown Date, thought to be August 29, 1968, Matrix" with > the following > > setlist: > > > > 1. St. Stephen (fades in) > > 2. Cryptical> > > 3. TOO> > > 4. Cryptical > > 5. New Potato Caboose > > 6. Alligator > > 7. Caution Jam > > > > Deadlists doesn't show any performance on 8/29/68. And > according to the > > search feature the GD never played NPC at any of the Matrix > shows (so far as > > is known). > > > > To confuse the issue even further, setlist.com shows a > performance at the > > Carousel on 8/29/68 with a completely different setlist > with "Ron Ellner" as > > the source for the info. > > > > So does anybody know why this set is thought to be 8/29/68 Matrix? > > > > Iver > > > >
