Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices

2009-06-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only verifiable by > someone who's lived in that state or otherwise seen drivers' > licenses from that state. Nah; there's a guide published[1] which has all of them. [If you're a bar tender or a notary, you h

Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices

2009-06-23 Thread Russ Allbery
martin f krafft writes: > I will always challenge the "government-issued ID" due to the vastly > differing standards across the globe, but "travel document" is > actually a term that someone uttered earlier, which raises the bar a > lot higher. For example, I think US drivers' licenses are only

Re: [Debconf-discuss] About selling OpenPGP cards in debconf9

2009-06-23 Thread Sami Liedes
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 09:18:43PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > AFAIK no one has talked about OpenPGP cards since DebConf8, where I had > some spare OpenPGP cards (with reader) to sell: I think OpenPGP cards that support larger RSA than 1024 bit still don't exist? It's slowly starting to be a conc

Re: [Debconf-discuss] About selling OpenPGP cards in debconf9

2009-06-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Pablo! On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:44:29 +0200, Pablo Castellano wrote: > I can vaguely remember having read a message in this list (or maybe > debconf-team?) about selling OpenPGP smartcards during DebConf9. > > I couldn't find that message but I have found that they were sold in > DebConf8 and I w

Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

2009-06-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/23/2009 02:52 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Additional metadata, e.g. number and expiration date would > be helpful. This would certainly be useful from the smiting perspective, but might raise privacy concerns if people don't want their passport number (or whatever) bound to their OpenPGP ke

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 23 Jun 2009, Sami Liedes wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:43:53AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > Perhaps it would be good enough to have the public > > checksum-checking part of the keysigning party very early on in > > Debconf, and then do the signing later on during meals, where > > t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

2009-06-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Daniel Kahn Gillmor [2009.06.23.1949 +0200]: > --> govt-iss...@wot.debian.org might be a distinguished name > identifying the apparent issuer of any validated identification, > such as /C=US/ST=NY/ for a NY State (USA) driver's license and > /C=US/ for an American passport. If you che

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Sami Liedes
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:43:53AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > Perhaps it would be good enough to have the public checksum-checking > part of the keysigning party very early on in Debconf, and then do the > signing later on during meals, where there would be an opportunity for > more informal int

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 12 Jun 2009, Jonathan McDowell wrote: > Maybe we we need is a "registry" of people who are happy to cross > sign and who can be expected to have ID/fingerprints on them for > much of the conference and then people can exchange details as part > of other interactions? Perhaps it would be go

[Debconf-discuss] using OpenPGP notations to indicate keysigning practices [was: Re: GPG keysigning?]

2009-06-23 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
On 06/23/2009 12:34 PM, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Frankly, recording the details of the verification performed is > a first step to improving the ability to assess the strength of the > link in the web of trust. A simple key sig is not enough, there could > be a formal process to add to

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Jun 23 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 23 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > >>> I think you miss an important item: people with the same name. In my >>> small town, I know a lot of people with same name (first and surname). >>> In linux communi

[Debconf-discuss] About selling OpenPGP cards in debconf9

2009-06-23 Thread Pablo Castellano
Hello there. I can vaguely remember having read a message in this list (or maybe debconf-team?) about selling OpenPGP smartcards during DebConf9. I couldn't find that message but I have found that they were sold in DebConf8 and I wanted to know if we could buy them again in Cáceres as well. Will

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Tue, Jun 23 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: >> I think you miss an important item: people with the same name. In my >> small town, I know a lot of people with same name (first and surname). >> In linux community we have three different Alax Cox. > > Right.

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, Jun 23 2009, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: > (...) >> Now really, we want to tie the key to a person -- even if they >> resleeve (a. la. Altered Carbon, [0]). Thankfully, releeving is not >> (yet) possible, so we don't have to deal with that. All we have t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] GPG keysigning?

2009-06-23 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: (...) > Now really, we want to tie the key to a person -- even if they > resleeve (a. la. Altered Carbon, [0]). Thankfully, releeving is not > (yet) possible, so we don't have to deal with that. All we have to do > is to tie a key to a real live person, and do it