@Darjan We've already done that, I think over a month ago or even more. We've visited the tourist bureau, gathered all the brochurs and maps, scanned everything and sent it to Vedran Omeragic.
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Darjan Prtic <dpr...@gmail.com> wrote: > @Dejan > Great work. Looks really nice atm. > > @Philip Hands > Localteam members from Banjaluka mentioned something about having map from > local tourist office with much more details and markings. We could use those > markings and update OSM based on that info. I wouldn't mind working few > hours on that cuz that stays for later use by anyone, not just DebConf. > > It would be nice if Bojana or Zlatan(whoever has that tourist office map) > to scan it and upload it here so we can at least check markings and have a > clue what you were talking about when you mentioned that map. > > Sorry guys that we are black hole on google and bing maps. > > Darjan Prtic > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:10, Philip Hands <p...@hands.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:07:11 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard <d...@jones.dk> wrote: >> > On 11-05-24 at 10:26pm, Adnan Hodzic wrote: >> > > One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did >> > > amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to >> > > Banja Luka. >> > > >> > > Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop "shop" for all >> > > information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your >> > > stay there and eventual departure. >> > >> > Wauw! >> > >> > Is that website a Free Software project? I would be interested in >> > looking closer at both the design of the site (e.g. look at applying >> > Kalle's Debian design using Sass), and the data points (e.g. juggling >> > with OpenStreetMap and RDF). >> >> I'm somewhat suspicious of the provenance of that map, given the lack of >> any copyright notice. >> >> Picking an area almost at random (I actually chose Frana Supila on the >> JPG on the basis that it was an unusual shape) I thought I'd compare it >> with openstreetmap, and found that it was this bit: >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=44.78067&lon=17.21028&zoom=17&layers=M >> >> which, when I looked at it, was missing most of Frana Supila as shown on >> the JPG. >> >> That being the case, I thought I'd check what the Bing imagery is >> like -- it's very high res, so I traced in the roads for this little >> area, so by the time you look at it, it may well have a load of >> residential roads and tracks there, rather than whitespace. >> >> Doing this demonstrated that the JPG map is about as partial as OSM was >> for that area -- it is missing the exit from Bulevar Srpske Vojske onto >> Frana Suplia, for instance. >> >> The difference being that in the mean time, I've fixed that bit of OSM. >> >> As mentioned (repeatedly) on IRC, can we have map data with a decent >> provenance, where the data is properly licensed such that if any of it's >> better than OSM, we can merge them. >> >> For instance, I know that webarto on IRC said that the POI information >> was fine, but I got the slight impression that he (she?) allows >> enthusiasm to overcome such details -- what is the copyright situation >> on those POIs -- are they unencumbered enough to include into OSM? >> >> There was something about them having been prepared for Garmin. If that >> was a work for hire, normal copyright law would make them Garmin's >> property. >> >> Anyway, as stated already, we should use OSM, and in areas where locals >> react to that by saying "but look, it's wrong over here" then they >> should be encouraged to sign up with an OSM account, and edit it. Given >> that the hi-res imagery is available, and Potlach2 runs in any >> Flash-able browser (mouse-over the edit button, and take the second >> option of the drop-down menu) there's not much excuse for not just >> fixing it -- especially since the best alternative we have is also >> wrong, and is _not_ easily fixed. >> >> BTW How many times is this going to have to be repeated before it's >> listened to? Let's try stating it as an ultimatum: >> >> We cannot have the Debian name associated with data of dubious >> provenance and/or licensing, so if it's a choice between having no >> map, or a map that was "found" somewhere, we'll have no map. >> >> (of course, since OSM is about as good as the map you're using, this >> should not arise, but what of the POIs?) >> >> Having said all that, as I've also said before: Good Effort :-) >> >> Cheers, Phil. >> -- >> |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ >> |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ >> |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Debconf11-localteam mailing list >> debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org >> http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Debconf11-localteam mailing list > debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org > http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam > > -- Bojana Borković aka Lunacy bojanaborkovic.net
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