On 14/12/12 11:21, Neil McGovern wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:26:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>
>> - rather than publicly disclosing all the details, it may be possible to
>> identify somebody outside the DebConf team that all of us trust who can
>> gather the facts confidentially and
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 11:26:53PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> - rather than publicly disclosing all the details, it may be possible to
> identify somebody outside the DebConf team that all of us trust who can
> gather the facts confidentially and report relevant facts publicly
>
For informatio
On 13/12/12 16:42, martin f krafft wrote:
> We even have some examples within our project where we willingly do
> without "full transparency" because we acknowledge the need
> (debian-private, security, some financials, etc.). In all these
> cases, we (and others) build on a strong foundation of tr
martin f krafft writes ("Re: Insider manipulation of DC13 site selection, and
apparent coverup"):
> I fully understand your desire for transparency. We appreciate
> transparency as an ideal and being the Debian Project — independent
> and guided by ideals — we can and should pursue it, if desirabl
[removing d-p from cc list]
Dear Ian,
I fully understand your desire for transparency. We appreciate
transparency as an ideal and being the Debian Project — independent
and guided by ideals — we can and should pursue it, if desirable.
However, transparency is not always desirable. As I am sure y
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Insider manipulation of DC13
site selection, and apparent coverup"):
> On the more general matter, that you are clearly still very much
> interested in, you probably have noticed that I didn't change my mind
> (i.e. un-appr
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: [Debconf-discuss] Insider manipulation of DC13
site selection, and apparent coverup"):
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:54:05AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > However, that DC13 team member did tell me that the DPL was fully
> > informed, wit
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:54:05AM +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> However, that DC13 team member did tell me that the DPL was fully
> informed, with all the details, before the DPL approved the DC13
> budget.
Please name names or facts to support this or, alternatively, drop it.
- My budget approval
Ian Jackson writes ("Insider manipulation of DC13 site selection, and apparent
coverup"):
> Switzerland is known abroad for many things. [etc]
It's been pointed out to me that that paragraph (which I have cut out
most of to avoid repeating it) unfairly tars the whole of Switzerland
with the same
For a period during the deliberations for DC13 site selection some
"anonymous" "donors" were offering money to Debconf on condition that
Vaumarcus was selected. This offer (actually a loan) was withdrawn
when the donors got cold feet.
These "anonymous donors" were in fact not third parties at all
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