Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
On 3/20/19 11:56 PM, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here: > > If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are > a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better, > I think it's fai

Re: Registration is now open for DebConf19, in Curitiba, Brazil

2019-03-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Mar 21, 2019 at 9:22 AM Daniel Lenharo wrote: > We are happy to announce that DebConf19 registration is now open!! Will you be posting this to d-d-a and debconf-announce too? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, I sent my opinion to debconf-team list, so I am copying here: If there is a demanding for have a DebConf in Europe in 2021, there are a lot of support to that, and DebConf committee believes this is better, I think it's fair that DebConf committee ask to any countries outside Europe make Bids

Registration is now open for DebConf19, in Curitiba, Brazil

2019-03-20 Thread Daniel Lenharo
We are happy to announce that DebConf19 registration is now open!! DebConf19 will take place from July 21st to 28th, 2019 at the Central campus of Universidade Tecnológica Federal do Paraná - UTFPR, in Curitiba, Brazil, and will be preceded by DebCamp, from July 14th to 19th, and an Open Day on th

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Wookey
On 2019-03-21 00:00 +0100, W. Martin Borgert wrote: > On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > > trains, no ferries), > > I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by > train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus,

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Wookey dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:44:12PM +]: > True, and there is clearly a balance to be struck between encouraging > debian in new areas and optimising travel for existing > developers. After 5 years when debconf could only be attended with > intercontinental travel by European developers

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting W. Martin Borgert (2019-03-21 00:00:29) > On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > > trains, no ferries), > > I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by > train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Gre

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread W. Martin Borgert
On 2019-03-20 21:44, Wookey wrote: > but cannot be reached in a low-carbon way from the UK SFAICT (no > trains, no ferries), I plan to go by train and ferry. AFAIK, it's possible to go by train to Ancona, Italy, then ferry to Piraeus, Greece, a short bus trip to Lavrio, Greece, finally other ferry

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
On 19-03-20 18 h 55, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12) >> One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so >> there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to >> go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Paulo (2019.03.20_17:42:34_+0200) > If you use numbers of DDs, we will always have DC in Europe :-) Well, yes and no. As DebConf is a volunteer organised event, we're at the mercy of the bids presented. Which means, if people want to have DebConfs in Europe, they need to organise them :) There

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Wookey (2019-03-20 22:44:12) > One thing we could do is take remote attendance more seriously so > there was less need to travel thousands of miles. Conferences need to > go this way, at least until fuel production is decarbonised, unless we > wish to just pretend there is no climate eme

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Wookey
On 2019-03-20 12:42 -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > > > > But with 9 DDs in India and 500 or so in Europe the location is > > important. DebConf is not only for outreach. It is primarily the Debian > > Developers' conference. And yes, we definitely need more DDs from India. > > And

Debconf in Israel is Shameful

2019-03-20 Thread Nasir El-Amin
As a user of Debian for many years and a Muslim I’m writing to say I’m deeply saddened by Debian’s choice to have Debconf in Israel. Israel is land stolen from Palestinians its a illegitimate nation that has built walls with machine gun turrets and oppressive paramilitary groups that assault an

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Rene Engelhard dijo [Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 04:05:35PM +0100]: > Hi, > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana > wrote: > > I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. > > Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for > >

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread rajudev
Daniel Lange writes: > Hi, > > Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana: >> I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee >> how it was on previous years > > We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. > There has been a two hour public bid r

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
On 3/20/19 12:27 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: Hi, > I'd love to have a DC in Portugal or in any other European country, this > is not my point. I just think that it doesn't make any sense to suggest > an European agenda for 2021 at this point, clearly risking to discourage > other interesti

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:46:18PM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe. > > Are you proposing that, before see any Bid?? > Make no sense to me. If the Lisbon bid

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 12:05 PM, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Hi, > > > So I completely understand this, it is time for Europe. Are you proposing that, before see any Bid?? Make no sense to me. I prefer read all Bids before express my opinion about where should be DC21. Best regards, -- Paulo Henrique

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 11:54 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > Hi, > > We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. Why? > The Indian team did not agree on a city and there was no sufficiently > completed bid for DC20 so they dropped out early. We're happy to receive > a competitive bid for DC21. Wel

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Tiago Bortoletto Vaz
Hi, On 2019-03-20 11:05 a.m., Rene Engelhard wrote: Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for 2021." Neither is it de

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Daniel Lange
Hi, Am 20.03.19 um 15:18 schrieb Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana: > I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebConf Committee > how it was on previous years We discussed that and preferred a non-public meeting. There has been a two hour public bid review meeting cf.

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Julian Andres Klode
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > Hi, > > On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > > > > > > So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team: > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian > > Developer Conference 2020 in Hai

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:18:44AM -0300, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > I think this part is not fair with countries outside Europe. > Yesterday on the #debconf utkarsh2102 said: "India would be bidding for > 2021." Neither is it desirable for Developers or other attendees to have h

Re: Debconf20 will be in...

2019-03-20 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/20/19 9:52 AM, Daniel Lange wrote: > > > So, congratulations, to the Israeli bid team: > Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to host the Debian > Developer Conference 2020 in Haifa! Congratulations to Israel team. I'd have liked to have seen a public discussion from DebCo