Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Holger, On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:52:23AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: so, you can flame now. On the contrary: Many thanks for your detailed report and the insight you gave. This draws a very better picture than past discussions here on the list. Many thanks for this! Considering you also

Re: [Debconf-team] Website restyle

2012-10-29 Thread Raphaël Walther
Hello Allison, On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 05:38:06PM +0100, Allison Randal wrote: On 10/28/2012 12:16 AM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Okay, that's easy enough. I've commented out the link for the Spanish translation, and will change it to whatever translation language is chosen. (I'm leaving all the

[Debconf-team] Le Camp / payment terms / the DebDebt?

2012-10-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
Quoting the two points from Holger's email on payment terms: * About paying in advance: we agreed to put something in the contract to pay 30k end of February 2012, second 30k end of May 2012, but: two weeks later is fine and if we'd only had 25k at that moment it would also be no big issue.

Re: [Debconf-team] Website restyle

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Raphaël Walther wrote: I think we should remove the permanent sponsors until they commit. they commited already, thats why there permanently listed. Also I'd like to help on the website because I think that most of potential sponsors will have at least a

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp / payment terms / the DebDebt?

2012-10-29 Thread Philipp Hug
Hi, For the final bill: - at first glance, it appears positive that people won't be standing in the street if money is not paid in advance, but a deeper reflection on this should raise concerns well, yes, every coin has at least four sides, but really here for us, paying later is better.

Re: [Debconf-team] Website restyle

2012-10-29 Thread Allison Randal
On 10/29/2012 09:30 AM, Raphaël Walther wrote: I think we should remove the permanent sponsors until they commit. Okay, removed those as well. Also I'd like to help on the website because I think that most of potential sponsors will have at least a look on it. Please, dive in, there's

Re: [Debconf-team] Le Camp / payment terms / the DebDebt?

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Philipp Hug wrote: I do agree, that there's a risk here. As we only get the final invoice after the conference we might get a surprise because we calculated differently than LeCamp. right, there is a risk. but can we migate it, maybe? and if so how? /me yawns.

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Moray Allan
On 2012-10-29 08:12, Andreas Tille wrote: Considering you also visited one proposed alternative (Interlaken) I would like to trust you and the voting (from first part) that Le Camp might make a nice DebConf. The problem is not to answer What is nicer? but to be sure that we choose something

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:10:37PM +, Moray Allan wrote: Only if it is shown that both options would work equally well for Debian in budget/risks/etc. is it relevant to ask which is nicer. I have choosen the term nice more or less as a sign of optimism in contrast of some very sad

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: The problem is anyway not to answer Le Camp vs. Interlaken. It has not yet been shown that either of these options will work with acceptable risks, IMO it has for Le Camp. ___ Debconf-team mailing list

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 1-3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 29/10/12 14:10, Holger Levsen wrote: On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: The problem is anyway not to answer Le Camp vs. Interlaken. It has not yet been shown that either of these options will work with acceptable risks, IMO it has for Le Camp. There seem to be a lot of

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Montag, 29. Oktober 2012, Moray Allan wrote: On 2012-10-28 23:52, Holger Levsen wrote: we decide RSN. I would hope so. No, just hoping is too little. We should activly work towards that goal!! If we dont manage to decide in the next 14 days, I personally think that it will be very

Re: [Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 3: irc meeting(s) on the internet

2012-10-29 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Holger Levsen dijo [Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:52:23AM +0100]: So, as a meeting in Le Camp we came to the conclusion to recommend to the globalteam to have DebConf13 in Le Camp and also to come to a final decision rather fast. Thats why we want an IRC meeting soon, eg next Friday (November

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 4: some random prices in switzerland

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, just some random data points on what I spent during my 3 days in Switzerland. I didnt see a supermarket from inside, just kiosks bars, basically. 4.10 CHF 1 tram (public transport) within Zurich, single trip 9.00 CHF 2 coffees in train 3.50 CHF crossaint and a cookie (in zurich) 6.90

Re: [Debconf-team] le camp budget...

2012-10-29 Thread Philipp Hug
Hi, The updated budget from the weekend was just uploaded. Changes: * removed the registration fee * Reduced some non-essential or too high budgeted expenses * Created 2 separate sheets (normal, optimistic) * Reduced number of corporate attendees to 1 I will further discuss this the budget with

Re: [Debconf-team] le camp budget...

2012-10-29 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 29/10/12 15:15, Philipp Hug wrote: Hi, The updated budget from the weekend was just uploaded. Changes: * removed the registration fee * Reduced some non-essential or too high budgeted expenses * Created 2 separate sheets (normal, optimistic) * Reduced number of corporate attendees to 1

Re: [Debconf-team] Website restyle

2012-10-29 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:50:56 +0200, Allison Randal wrote: I've checked in a restyle on the dc13 website. Just theme changes so far, no content changes. I went for a red white theme, inspired by the logo. All contributions or changes gladly welcomed. :) Allison, Eric and Ana (who

[Debconf-team] reports from Le Camp BSP, part 5: pics

2012-10-29 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, http://layer-acht.org/fotos/670_Switzerland_DC13-pre/ has some photos I took this weekend. Please excuse the crappy quality! :-) Some stats I forgot so far: - 5-10 RC bugs squashed (some people did work on this a bit, but we didnt really keep track...) - 3kg cheese were eaten, I guess -

[Debconf-team] A better budget analysis

2012-10-29 Thread Richard Darst
Hi, This email is from darst (who takes responsibility for most editorial opinions) and hug, about budget things. Le Camp: - ~ 95 kCHF fixed costs, which about matches a safe initial sponsorship estimate. (65 kCHF all accom and 30 kCHF other) - This is with no attendees. Each additional