Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Louis-Philippe Véronneau [2016-04-12 22:56 +0200]: > If you have numbers about "unique site visits" this does means you are > logging IP addresses, right? I really don't know enough about the available technology on this. IP addresses is probably how awstats does

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Louis-Philippe Véronneau
> My suggestion did not involve "tracking" visitors or increasing our > visibility with SEO or what-have-you. > > I merely tried to suggest to publish an awstats-like, number of > unique site visits, which can be an estimation, just as long as we > arrived at it not in unreasonable fashion. If

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jerome Charaoui [2016-04-12 21:08 +0200]: > I have no knowledge of how current operations are set up, but I'm a > little concerned that if these numbers were to be collected in a > privacy-respectful way (eg. honoring DNT), then the numbers offered > would not

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Jerome Charaoui
Le 2016-04-12 03:29, martin f krafft a écrit : > The most common mistake in fundraising (which we also make) is to > sell advertising space ("logo on website"), rather than to sell the > service ("logo on website, 1,234 unique visitors /month"). > > With a bit of effort, I am sure we can get

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/12/2016 06:20 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:54:17AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: >> >> You're obviously free to disagree and assume a different view of >> what we're doing, but please don't stop other people's efforts just >> because you don't see their value. > >

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Gunnar Wolf
martin f krafft dijo [Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 09:29:57AM +0200]: > Hello, > > I am currently working with a bunch of highly professional > fundraisers and learning. There are also a couple of ideas to pass > along for us to consider for the next fundraising brochure(s). > (...) I will AOL on Cate's

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Holger Levsen [2016-04-12 12:20 +0200]: > > Numerous sponsors have been asking specifics about the services we > how many exactly? During DC15 fundraising, it was at least every second. For DC16, I saw 4 so far, if memory serves right. -- .''`. martin f.

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:54:17AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2016-04-12 09:56 +0200]: > > I don't think we ever sell logo space to sponsors, … > > You're obviously free to disagree and assume a different view of > what we're doing, but please

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2016-04-12 09:56 +0200]: > I don't think we ever sell logo space to sponsors, … You're obviously free to disagree and assume a different view of what we're doing, but please don't stop other people's efforts just because you don't see their value.

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 09:56:58AM +0200, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: > I don't think we ever sell logo space to sponsors, so IMHO, the > assumptions are wrong. > > > For many sponsors, we are offering them to sponsor/to donate to Debian > (the "give back") so that Debian is healthy and

Re: [Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
Hello Martin, On 12.04.2016 09:29, martin f krafft wrote: > Hello, > > I am currently working with a bunch of highly professional > fundraisers and learning. There are also a couple of ideas to pass > along for us to consider for the next fundraising brochure(s). > > The most common mistake in

[Debconf-team] Suggestion for DC17+ fundraising brochure: advertising service vs. ad space

2016-04-12 Thread martin f krafft
Hello, I am currently working with a bunch of highly professional fundraisers and learning. There are also a couple of ideas to pass along for us to consider for the next fundraising brochure(s). The most common mistake in fundraising (which we also make) is to sell advertising space ("logo on