also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2015-03-13 02:52 +0100]:
If it's not encoded as an earmark from one of our sponsors (e.g. Debian),
I don't see any reason for this to be encoded at the budget level. That
simply adds an additional constraint on how the bursaries team can use the
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 09:49 +0100]:
I think that we should clarify what 'budget approval' means, maybe. From
my perspective, it means:
- Chairs and DPL have looked at it, and are fine with the general shape
of it
- We agree on a plan about how to address
On 11/03/15 at 20:49 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 18:53 +0100]:
Do you have a maximum amount of Debian funds you can allocate to
bursaries to do their work when they have sighted the
applications in April? Or a target?
No,
On 12/03/15 at 10:18 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 09:49 +0100]:
I think that we should clarify what 'budget approval' means, maybe. From
my perspective, it means:
- Chairs and DPL have looked at it, and are fine with the general
On 12/03/15 at 12:26 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 11:32 +0100]:
OK, then, provided the chairs agree as well (as they know more
about the details than myself), I think I'm fine with all the
expenses listed in the worst case scenario
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
I would prefer to hear from bursaries before we decide to direct funds
to some of the items in the base case scenario.
Just to be clear, do you mean you want to wait until after the bursaries
ranking process is complete before making that decision? I
On 12/03/15 at 13:28 +0100, David Bremner wrote:
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
I would prefer to hear from bursaries before we decide to direct funds
to some of the items in the base case scenario.
Just to be clear, do you mean you want to wait until after the bursaries
On 12.03.2015 12:26, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 11:32 +0100]:
OK, then, provided the chairs agree as well (as they know more
about the details than myself), I think I'm fine with all the
expenses listed in the worst case scenario in the
Hi Martin,
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org
wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 11:18 +0100]:
My other question is about the travel sponsorship amount. 30k€ seems
quite low to me. How does it compare to past years?
DC14 : 45k
My main interest is to ensure that DC15 is the most successful for the
Debian project. For that, one of the main conditions is that enough
contributors can attend the event. That's why the sponsorship budget is
so important to me: to put it bluntly, I don't care if DC15 will be very
enjoyable for
Hi Martin,
I only have a few comments on the budget:
* Dinner/Lunch participation: The numbers, at least for dinner should be
more in the 80-90% range as some might decide not to eat or go into the
city to eat. For CW, I'd also assume less than 90%
* Conference dinner transport: I'd cancel this
On 12/03/15 at 19:33 +, Philip Hands wrote:
martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org writes:
...
Before we commit to expenses that I see as optional from the point
of view of the success for the Debian project metric, I would
like to make sure that the sponsorship budget is covered.
...
martin f krafft madd...@debconf.org writes:
...
Before we commit to expenses that I see as optional from the point
of view of the success for the Debian project metric, I would
like to make sure that the sponsorship budget is covered.
...
Given the conservative nature of my budget, after the
Thanks for the comments, here are quick answers:
also sprach Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx [2015-03-12 17:47 +0100]:
* Dinner/Lunch participation: The numbers, at least for dinner should be
more in the 80-90% range as some might decide not to eat or go into the
city to eat. For CW, I'd also
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 16:14 +0100]:
My main interest is to ensure that DC15 is the most successful for
the Debian project.
Noted, and agreed. But this is not the main interest of everyone
involved, and it's also not my only interest. Especially the people
Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org writes:
I also have a question about the number of people sponsored for
food+accomodation. In the 35% scenario, how does it compare to previous
years? (both in terms of absolute number of attendees, and in terms of
cost for self-paying attendees)
Here is what
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 12:35 +0100]:
I would prefer to hear from bursaries before we decide to direct
funds to some of the items in the base case scenario.
Around in circles we go. :(
--
.''`. martin f. krafft madd...@debconf.org @martinkrafft
: :' :
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-12 11:32 +0100]:
OK, then, provided the chairs agree as well (as they know more
about the details than myself), I think I'm fine with all the
expenses listed in the worst case scenario in the expense tab
(except for the video team budget
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 08:03:24AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2015-03-12 00:25 +0100]:
Note also for the record that there was no explicit Debian
newbies earmark in 2014. Previous attendance at DebConf was one
of various factors weighed by
also sprach Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org [2015-03-12 00:25 +0100]:
DC14 : 45k USD incl. newbies initiative, 36k USD from Debian
(still don't have the numbers on how this was used)
What numbers are you looking for that are not available through the ledger
or information sent to
On 11/03/15 at 15:50 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 15:06 +0100]:
Maybe, but is that a discussion that we need to have now, or can
we have it after the bursaries team will have looked at
applications?
Well, catch-22: for bursaries
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 16:50 +0100]:
I agree that for making the final decision about who will get
sponsored, a travel sponsorship budget is needed. But I don't see
why you need to know the travel sponsorship budget to split
requests in groups.
Do you have a
On 11/03/15 at 17:55 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 16:50 +0100]:
I agree that for making the final decision about who will get
sponsored, a travel sponsorship budget is needed. But I don't see
why you need to know the travel
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 18:53 +0100]:
Do you have a maximum amount of Debian funds you can allocate to
bursaries to do their work when they have sighted the
applications in April? Or a target?
No, not really. I'm really open to hearing what they think.
Hi Martin,
On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 01:16:12PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 11:18 +0100]:
My other question is about the travel sponsorship amount. 30k€ seems
quite low to me. How does it compare to past years?
DC14 : 45k USD incl.
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 13:59 +0100]:
There is a position in the budget (backed travel sponsorship),
which is currently 0. Feel free to pour any Debian funds into
it. Just let me know! ;)
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Put differently, if Debian funding is needed, I might prefer to
On 11/03/15 at 14:48 +0100, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum lea...@debian.org [2015-03-11 13:59 +0100]:
There is a position in the budget (backed travel sponsorship),
which is currently 0. Feel free to pour any Debian funds into
it. Just let me know! ;)
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