Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation (was: Re: DebConf meetings this week)

2015-09-26 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi [2015-09-23 23:03 +0200]: > And I find disturbing that you don’t listen DPL, that you still > think that conference dinner is far more important than Debian > Developers. So important, although you got the budget (so was it > a veto? or just ugly

[Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation (was: Re: DebConf meetings this week)

2015-09-23 Thread Philip Hands
Giacomo Catenazzi writes: >> On 22 Sep 2015, at 23:00, Philip Hands wrote: >> >> Margarita Manterola writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Philip Hands wrote: Could someone explain the

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation (was: Re: DebConf meetings this week)

2015-09-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, I think that it's useful to go back to the motivations for the delegation, and to what is actually written in it. I somehow have the impression that lots of people are talking about the chairs delegation without having taken a recent, deep look at it. You would have to ask Zack for his exact

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation (was: Re: DebConf meetings this week)

2015-09-23 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Lucas Nussbaum [2015-09-23 17:59 +0200]: > They are responsible for the organization of DebConf, which means > that they should feel that it's their fault when something > important fails. This is different from being *in charge* Herein lies part of the problem:

Re: [Debconf-team] Fixing the Debconf Delagation (was: Re: DebConf meetings this week)

2015-09-23 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
> On 23 Sep 2015, at 21:51, martin f krafft wrote: >>> The other (more exceptional) power that the chairs have to >>> interfere with day-to-day affairs is also problematic: >>> overriding decisions >>> >>> While this is only used rarely, >> >> Actually, the value of that