Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Daniel Pocock
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a should or

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Holger Levsen
On Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, Holger Levsen wrote: On Donnerstag, 31. Januar 2013, Daniel Pocock wrote: Could you elaborate? no. [...] of course I _could_, but I'm not gonna work in a dysfunctional team. Life's too short to waste it. ___

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 31.01.2013 13:46, Daniel Pocock wrote: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room mates.

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-31 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: On Montag, 28. Januar 2013, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: * People should be able to select their room mates. IMO this is wrong/impractial: it would be nice to have if people are able to select their room mates. And we try to. But its not a should or

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-28 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi We discussed the Online booking vs. manual room assignment question yesterday during our meeting. We tried to look at it from a different angle and to define what we have to guarantee from the participants point of view and how this can be achieved with or without an online booking system. *

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:35:05PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: Has anyone that's been responsible for doing the room allocation bit of debconf actually contributed any views to any of these threads yet? That would be good - but also remember that every DebConf is different. This one has a

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote: choosing

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Giacomo Catenazzi
On 01/23/2013 08:54 PM, Philip Hands wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: The only risk is that people have to accept that if they don't organise themselves into a group for a room, they will be allocated to any available bed at random on arrival - but thanks to the stock-level

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Leandro Gómez
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin gaud...@debian.orgwrote: Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Daniel

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-24 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
On 01/24/2013 07:31 PM, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com writes: As someone who was involved with the room allocation for dc12 I have to agree with cate. Manual allocation is not perfect, but it'll do a better job than implementing a room registration system, even if

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 23. Januar 2013, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: So I think that manual allocation will do a better (and fairer) job. [...] To conclude: I don't think automatic means more fair. fully agreed. choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster.

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 23 janvier 2013 11.47:59, Giacomo Catenazzi a écrit : On 23.01.2013 09:01, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: After looking at all those, I think we should try to adapt hoteldruid to our needs; the fact that it is already in Debian is certainly a plus (even if we might need to fork it

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Philipp Hug
choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to availability. But I'm against doing it manually, because: * It's a lot of work to track all the room

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote: choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to availability. Can we come up with some solution where people pay and

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote: choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees choose their own room according to availability. Can we come

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote: choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's better if we let the attendees choose their own

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-23 Thread Philip Hands
Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: On 23/01/13 18:17, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au writes: Philipp Hug deb...@hug.cx wrote: choosing rooms by algorithm only is a sure recipe for desaster. I don't think we should automatically assign rooms. It's

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-22 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org writes: Hi, On Montag, 21. Januar 2013, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: in the context of using an online rooms booking system, here's the result of my investigation: In Debian: - hoteldruid http://www.hoteldruid.com/ [...] After looking at all

Re: [Debconf-team] Online rooms booking systems

2013-01-21 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hi Holger, Le mardi, 22 janvier 2013 01.04:03, Holger Levsen a écrit : having proper software for talk selection seems way more useful to me. I think these are not mutually exclusive. +conference mgmt too. Making sure we provide hosting in a fair manner is a way to manage the conference to