Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

also sprach Laura Arjona Reina [2017-05-15 15:22 +0200]: > The reason I said in my first mail: > > "The third paragraph, about the measures that can be taken, I need > to think about it a little bit more." I am sorry, I missed that. > And after thinking more, and cate's

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

El 15/05/17 a las 15:07, martin f krafft escribió: > Dear Laura, > > Thanks for your hard work on this. > > One thing I noticed is that in 6.7 there's the phrase "dismissal > from the conference". However, this is not mentioned beforehand and > even though I am sure people can imagine what this

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Dear Laura, Thanks for your hard work on this. One thing I noticed is that in 6.7 there's the phrase "dismissal from the conference". However, this is not mentioned beforehand and even though I am sure people can imagine what this means, it does seem a bit "out of the blue". Maybe just to me…

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Hello Cate Thanks for dedicate time to this. I'm attaching a third proposal that supersedes my former proposal. And a diff respect to my former proposal. Below I explain the changes, based in your comments. El 15/05/17 a las 10:23, Giacomo Catenazzi escribió: > Hello, > On 05.05.2017 13:46,

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Hello, On 05.05.2017 13:46, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: > Hi everybody (...) > I'm attaching 3 documents: > > The current code of conduct (debconf_coc_current.txt) > The proposal that is on the table (debconf_coc_proposal2.txt) > A second proposal that I put on the table (debconf_coc_proposal2.txt)

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Dear Laura, While I really like the second COC proposal for the simple reason it's more simple, more direct and more points based. There are two things I would suggest, both of which I had suggested before as well - Even before the preamble have In a nutshell and share - The following is a

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Hi everybody El 24/04/17 a las 01:35, Gabriel Filion escribió: Hello, [cc'ed to antiharassment@d.o to get their opinion as well since they most likely will be the ppl who will need to enforce this code during the future DebConfs] During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

also sprach Gabriel Filion [2017-04-28 05:09 +0200]: > .. we could base our efforts on work done by other folks that did > a great job. and then maybe reintegrate some elements that were > added to the DebConf CoC remash. That's what's been happening over the past years,

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

shirish शिरीष: > The draft is somewhat long, could it be shortened otherwise people > will sign it just as they sign any terms of service (i.e. blindly) . I must concur that the code of conduct is too long and has many repetitions in it. .. we could base our efforts on work done by other folks

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

also sprach Holger Levsen [2017-04-24 23:28 +0200]: > > You've indicated in privmsg that this constitutes an improvement > > in your eyes. > > please just speak for yourself… (and please dont refer to private > discussions like this…) > > If I want to agree with your

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

shirish शिरीष dijo [Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 08:55:05PM +0530]: > >> During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of the code > >> of conduct. We'd like to gather opinions on this rephrasing in the hope > >> to get the new version, or an amended version, adopted. > > > > I forgot to

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:39:34PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > You've indicated in privmsg that this constitutes an improvement in > your eyes. please just speak for yourself… (and please dont refer to private discussions like this…) If I want to agree with your mails, I can surely do that

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Hey Holger, thanks for the input, and taking the time to chat a bit about this just now, during which we devised a possible improvement. The point I think you're making is very acute. I think what you're saying is that we can't/shouldn't ban all "offensive behaviour" because we don't define what

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

also sprach shirish शिरीष [2017-04-24 17:25 +0200]: > The draft is somewhat long, could it be shortened otherwise people > will sign it just as they sign any terms of service (i.e. > blindly). The real 'meat' of the new CoC as I understand it are > the following. This is a

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

at bottom :- On 24/04/2017, Gabriel Filion wrote: > Gabriel Filion: >> During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of the code >> of conduct. We'd like to gather opinions on this rephrasing in the hope >> to get the new version, or an amended version, adopted.

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:07:21AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > eg i'm often really offended by stupidity, nationalismism and religion [...] > oh, eating meat and killing the planet with it is also really really offensive [...] > driving cars, smoking, php, systemd, etc. I forgot atheism in that

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 11:35:00PM +, Gabriel Filion wrote: > * Speak up if you notice offensive behaviour, or inform the organisers. this is too short, it needs to at least refer to the list of unwanted behaviours. eg i'm often really offended by stupidity, nationalismism and religion

Re: [Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Gabriel Filion: > During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of the code > of conduct. We'd like to gather opinions on this rephrasing in the hope > to get the new version, or an amended version, adopted. I forgot to mention: during the last meeting, we decided on a date before

[Debconf-team] Revision of DebConf CoC

Hello, [cc'ed to antiharassment@d.o to get their opinion as well since they most likely will be the ppl who will need to enforce this code during the future DebConfs] During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of the code of conduct. We'd like to gather opinions on this