Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 earmark at FFIS

2011-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Joey  the other people at ffis!

On Mittwoch, 13. April 2011, Richard Darst wrote:
 We are starting the DebConf11 process, and I was wondering if we could
 get a DebConf11 earmark created at FFIS?  Also, could I get access to
 view the DebConf11 earmark?  Holger can reply to this vouching for
 both creation and my view access...

Yup, he's right. Also we would like to have lea...@debian.org to have access 
(plus the Debian auditor, if there is one. AIUI currently there is none.)

If possible, we would like to have a DebConfX earmark created each year, where 
the usual DebConf people plus the DPL/auditor have access. The creation should 
be done 2-6 months in advance, when we needed. Each year, this earmark should 
also be deleted (on request by us, approx. 2 months after the conf ended) and 
the money moved to the regular Debian account.

(So in effect, it's Debians money for a specific purpose (running DebConfX) 
and should be merged with the regular Debian account/earmark each year.)

I hope it's both clear and possible what we want, if not, we're happy to 
either clarify and/or adopt plans :)
 
 (Hopefully soon, I'll let you know what to do with the remaining
 DebConf10 earmark.)

Please merge it with the Debian earmark/account now. If we have any other 
expenses to do, we will have to ask the DPL to authorize these spendings. 
Closing the earmark now will allow us to finally finish DC10 :)

 I also would like to thank you for your tireless work with helping
 DebConf over the past years.  You and FFIS have been key to DebConf's
 success.

Absolutly. Thank you a million!


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-team] recognizing support from ffis, spi and diva

2011-04-13 Thread Vedran Omeragic
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Hi,
I'll add them in a sec.

Kind regards,
Vedran

On 04/13/2011 09:52 AM, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on http://debconf9.debconf.org/ on the lower right you can see supported by 
 and the logos of fundecyt and ffis.
 
 I think we should have the same on the dc11 website, supported by diva, spi 
  
 ffis. - Any volunteers to do this? (Assuming this is uncontroversal.)
 
 And I think we should have the same, but only with spi+ffis on 
 www.debconf.org 
 too. - Any volunteers to do this? (Assuming this is uncontroversal.)
 
 
 cheers,
   Holger
 
 
 
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Re: [Debconf-team] recognizing support from ffis, spi and diva

2011-04-13 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 09:52:32AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi,
 
 on http://debconf9.debconf.org/ on the lower right you can see supported by 
 and the logos of fundecyt and ffis.
 
 I think we should have the same on the dc11 website, supported by diva, spi 
  
 ffis. - Any volunteers to do this? (Assuming this is uncontroversal.)

It is somethign nice to do. For the record, we did the same in dc8 with
'Fundación via libre'

Ana


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Re: [Debconf-team] Using pentabarf for minidebconfindia

2011-04-13 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 01:28:35PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
 
 There is no Debian standard, there is just one application used for
 the Debian conference. It is not, by far, a simple application to set
 up. And it is quite diverging from upstream.

Perhaps I'm completely missing the point and I learned in the past to
trust Gunnar's words.  However, if you consider a MiniDebconf as a
Debconf with just a shorter time frame and less people, why could those
conferences not hosted on the very same Penta installation as we use for
the big DebConf.  There might be an overlap of participiants which
is nice for these to insert their data only once and formalising to
this DebConf Standard also for MiniDebConfs might be an advantage.

I'm sorry if this is a quite naive remark of a Penta illiterate person
and I could be silenced by a simple:  You are stupid this will not work
that way.

Kind regards

Andreas.

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 earmark at FFIS

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Richard Darst wrote:
 Joey (or FFIS treasurer),

 
 We are starting the DebConf11 process, and I was wondering if we could
 get a DebConf11 earmark created at FFIS?  Also, could I get access to
 view the DebConf11 earmark?  Holger can reply to this vouching for
 both creation and my view access...

Sure.  Who shall get access to the account and who should be
authorized to acknowledge payments and reimbursements?

Regards,

Joey

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 earmark at FFIS

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Schulze
Holger Levsen wrote:
 Hi Joey  the other people at ffis!
 
 On Mittwoch, 13. April 2011, Richard Darst wrote:
  We are starting the DebConf11 process, and I was wondering if we could
  get a DebConf11 earmark created at FFIS?  Also, could I get access to
  view the DebConf11 earmark?  Holger can reply to this vouching for
  both creation and my view access...
 
 Yup, he's right. Also we would like to have lea...@debian.org to have access 
 (plus the Debian auditor, if there is one. AIUI currently there is none.)

Done for zack and luk.

 If possible, we would like to have a DebConfX earmark created each year, 
 where 

This is easy.

 the usual DebConf people plus the DPL/auditor have access. The creation 
 should 

For this we may need a reminder.

 be done 2-6 months in advance, when we needed. Each year, this earmark should 
 also be deleted (on request by us, approx. 2 months after the conf ended) and 
 the money moved to the regular Debian account.

That's fine.

  (Hopefully soon, I'll let you know what to do with the remaining
  DebConf10 earmark.)
 
 Please merge it with the Debian earmark/account now. If we have any other 
 expenses to do, we will have to ask the DPL to authorize these spendings. 
 Closing the earmark now will allow us to finally finish DC10 :)

Done.

Grüße,

Joey

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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 earmark at FFIS

2011-04-13 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Joey,

On Mittwoch, 13. April 2011, Martin Schulze wrote:
 Done for zack and luk.
 This is easy.
 For this we may need a reminder.
 That's fine.
 Done.

awesome! thanks!

You'll get reminders for closing a conference, as well as a list who will be 
authorized to acknowledge payments and reimbursements plus another, who should 
have read access. 

(I've added this as topics for our next meeting on April 25th, but would 
actually prefer if we could decide this on the list before the meeting. Should 
be trivial. I just need to stop typing for today thats why I'll stop here 
now.)


cheers,
Holger


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Re: [Debconf-team] Using pentabarf for minidebconfindia

2011-04-13 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Andreas Tille dijo [Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:04:51AM +0200]:
  There is no Debian standard, there is just one application used for
  the Debian conference. It is not, by far, a simple application to set
  up. And it is quite diverging from upstream.
 
 Perhaps I'm completely missing the point and I learned in the past to
 trust Gunnar's words.  However, if you consider a MiniDebconf as a
 Debconf with just a shorter time frame and less people, why could those
 conferences not hosted on the very same Penta installation as we use for
 the big DebConf.  There might be an overlap of participiants which
 is nice for these to insert their data only once and formalising to
 this DebConf Standard also for MiniDebConfs might be an advantage.
 
 I'm sorry if this is a quite naive remark of a Penta illiterate person
 and I could be silenced by a simple:  You are stupid this will not work
 that way.

There are several conference-specific modifications to Pentabarf that
have to be done for each individual conference. Even though upstream's
Pentabarf supports a multi-conference setting, for practical purposes,
ours doesn't anymore - i.e. the validation for dates or for attendance
types includes hardwired information for the current conference (so
would be basically impossible for you to register properly for DC9
now, even if we were to set it to receive new registrations.

Pentabarf is flexible enough to accomodate for our workflows, but the
existing instance, with the modifications done it's basically
rigidized to the only current conference.
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Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf11 earmark at FFIS

2011-04-13 Thread Richard Darst
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:30:15AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:

   (Hopefully soon, I'll let you know what to do with the remaining
   DebConf10 earmark.)
  
  Please merge it with the Debian earmark/account now. If we have any other 
  expenses to do, we will have to ask the DPL to authorize these spendings. 
  Closing the earmark now will allow us to finally finish DC10 :)
 
 Done.

Could you confirm (privately to me is OK) the amount transferred to
Debian's account?

Thanks,

- Richard

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[Debconf-team] SPI and DebConf11

2011-04-13 Thread Richard Darst
Michael,

We've been preparing DebConf11 finances, and are at the point where we
are doing financial things.

Do you think you have time to set up clickpledge again this year, and
serve as the SPI contact for money issues?  Could we help more?

I would also like to thank you and SPI for your help over the past
years, you've been key to successful DebConfs.

Thanks,

- Richard

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Re: [Debconf-team] Arrival one day earlier?

2011-04-13 Thread Adnan Hodzic
Actually, I'm not sure if I was understood properly, but I'm of
opinion that people should be able to come/leave one day
earlier/later. We need to be flexible, and us not allowing them to do
this doesn't make us flexible at all.

Matter for discussion could be more whether how we would do this,
manually or via penta.  After registrations if we see people massively
registered to arrive earlier/leave later and that we have a financial
problem then we could revoke this decision.


Adnan

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:15 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote:
 Gunnar Wolf dijo [Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:20:27AM -0500]:
 gregor herrmann dijo [Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:28:45PM +0200]:
  On Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:40:48 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote:
 
   Yes, you're free to arrive/leave one day earlier/later.
 
  If arriving on July 16th is ok, penta [0] needs to be updated.
 
  Cheers,
  gregor
 
  [0]
  https://penta.debconf.org/javascripts/application.js

 Right - the change is on its way up. Thanks!

 Oops. No, this was an oversight by Adnan and by myself - We had _not_
 agreed people can arrive/leave one day earlier/later - So, sorry, the
 change is reverted. I'll contact privately people who has selected the
 16th as their arrival day.

 Greetings,
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