Hello,
Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
all kinds of places, and nobody is working on fixing them yet. Also,
MATE+Compiz
On 2/8/2019 6:07 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all kinds of places, and
Hi Samuel,
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit:
> What about Orca?
> The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop
> environment' (Gnome).
When was that time?
A lot of things happened on the Mate side :)
Samuel
Hello,
Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> > for acce
On 2/8/2019 6:45 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:39:39 +0100, a ecrit:
>> What about Orca?
>> The last time I checked Mate, it wasn't as usable as 'Debian desktop
>> environment' (Gnome).
>
> When was that time?
> A lot of things happened on the Mate side :)
>
A fie
On 2/8/2019 7:25 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit:
>> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
>>> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 06:07:17PM +0100, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-open
john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:43:22 +0100, a ecrit:
> On 2/8/2019 7:25 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > john doe, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 19:09:39 +0100, a ecrit:
> >> On 2/8/2019 6:47 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> >>> Holger Levsen, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 17:42:42 +, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb
On 08/02/2019 19:24, john doe wrote:
> Do you have any pointers on where I can find what happened in Mate with
> regard to blindness?
Well I am not Samuel, but I will give my answers ;)
First of all, you'd need to have compiz-reloaded version 8-16, released
two months ago to get all the enhacemen
Checking Aptitude, libgtk-3-0 depends on libwayland-client, and
Firefox depends on libgtk-3-0 and Orca has libwayland-client and
libgtk-3-0 somewhere in its dependency chains. I don't run a full
desktop environment, but as these are the only graphical programs I
run, I suspect most, if not all, cur
> "Samuel" == Samuel Thibault writes:
Samuel> Hello, Sam Hartman, le mer. 16 janv. 2019 08:04:33 -0500, a
Samuel> ecrit:
>> Orca announces the settings frame, but fails to interact with it.
Samuel> Does orca announce anything when going around with
Samuel> shortcuts? (on
On 2/8/19 3:51 PM, Sam Hartman wrote:
I wanted to follow up on this.
It appears to be a couple of related things going on:
1) The wifi widget consumes a lot of CPU especially when it is selected.
NetworkManager usually appears high on my top(1) listing, but I haven't
noticed the applet. (I
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 3:51 PM Sam Hartman wrote:
> 2) Since stretch, the UI of the settings panel has been significantly
> redone. It looks like there is a list of possible task areas along the
> side. There doesn't seem to be good keyboard navigation to get into
> that list; it doesn't appear
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> for accessibility. Accessibility on Wayland has a lot of glitches in
> all kinds of places, and
> "Jason" == Jason White writes:
Jason> If it's a bug, then it's a fairly serious one from an
Jason> accessibility point of view, and the maintainers really
Jason> should put in place a strategy for preventing this kind of
Jason> regression from entering a release.
To be clea
Jeremy Bicha, le ven. 08 févr. 2019 18:57:30 -0500, a ecrit:
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 12:07 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Re-opening the question of the default desktop just a bit to provide
> > updated information: the current gnome-with-wayland default is a concern
> > for accessibility. Accessi
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 7:37 PM Samuel Thibault wrote:
> As mentioned earlier in the thread, the default desktop for
> accessibility is already MATE. I'm here talking about the choice of
> default desktop for Debian indeed. IIRC one of the reasons for the
> choice of gnome was its general accessibi
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