Re: best way to change speakup defaults in debian automatically when the system boots into console mode

2024-03-22 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, Chime Hart wrote: Well Geoff, I wonder if speakupconf only has an affect on software speech? From what I can see, speakupconf just saves and restores values from /sys/accessibility/speakup speakupconf is a shell script, so anyone can see what it does. HTH, Geoff.

Re: best way to change speakup defaults in debian automatically when the system boots into console mode

2024-03-21 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 21 Mar 2024, Chime Hart wrote: Well, Frank-and-All, while I am certainly not useing espeak, I don't think speakupconf does any good for these DecTalk settings, which hopefully I filed a bug. These seem to be defalts, unless there are ways of compiling changes in the drivers? I know

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-23 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 15:04:22 +0200, a ecrit: I updated the core file at http://quitelikely.com/gcore Thanks, that's indeed still the same situation: an alsa-lib mutex is said to be held by a thread which is not executing alsa-lib code

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-06 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 6 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 15:04:22 +0200, a ecrit: I updated the core file at http://quitelikely.com/gcore Thanks, that's indeed still the same situation: an alsa-lib mutex is said to be held by a thread which is not executing alsa-lib code

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:42:29 +0200, a ecrit: On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:26:49 +0200, a ecrit: On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: This confirms that "the impossible

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Geoff Shang wrote: On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:26:49 +0200, a ecrit: On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: This confirms that "the impossible" has happened :) The alsa-lib lock reports a mutex

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 4 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le jeu. 04 janv. 2024 14:26:49 +0200, a ecrit: On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: This confirms that "the impossible" has happened :) The alsa-lib lock reports a mutex being held by a thread that is not actually ru

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 3 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: This confirms that "the impossible" has happened :) The alsa-lib lock reports a mutex being held by a thread that is not actually running alsa-lib functions. I however noticed that espeak-ng uses pcaudiolib without any locking, and pcaudiolib is

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-02 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 1 Jan 2024, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Geoff Shang, le lun. 01 janv. 2024 18:39:33 +0200, a ecrit: On Sun, 31 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: Frank Carmickle, le ven. 29 déc. 2023 20:46:21 -0500, a ecrit: On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: #4 0x7fbedbb1a006

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2024-01-01 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 31 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, Frank Carmickle, le ven. 29 déc. 2023 20:46:21 -0500, a ecrit: On Dec 29, 2023, at 15:54, Samuel Thibault wrote: #4 0x7fbedbb1a006 in snd_pcm_state () from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 No symbol table info available. #9

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-21 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: thread apply all bt full :) OK, you got it. This produced 20 kb of output, so I've attached it. Let me know if anyone wants it included in the message instead. Because of the amount of output and the fact that I had to do it without speech, I

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-21 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 21 Dec 2023, Samuel Thibault wrote: All we need now is the full thread apply bt full to get the most available information. Earlier you said to use thread apply all bt Which do you want? Cheers, Geoff.

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-12-20 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, James Addison wrote: To do that, the first step is to enable a sources.list entry for debug symbol packages, then to install the gdb and espeakup-dbgsym packages, and then after the espeakup process stops speaking, to attach the gdb debugger to locate where it got stuck by

Re: correction, installing Debian Bookworm and Can't find repository

2023-12-20 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 16 Dec 2023, K0LNY ?? wrote: I'm trying to reinstall Debian onto my Asus that only has 4 GB internal storage. I have a CD installer that I downloaded and used to install it onto an external SD card on that computer a few months back. Which one? Netinst? You may want to grab the

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-09-01 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 29 Aug 2023, Chevelle wrote:     I'm using AMD64, but sometimes I can find the PID for pipewire-pulse with 'ps ax'.  Then enter kill -SIGHUP Suddenly it will start working again. It might be worth a try. I'm not running pipewire. This is a console-only VM running under VMWare

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-08-28 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 24 Apr 2023, James Addison wrote: Working towards a better backtrace is a good recommendation. I'd also like to mention that there are existing Debian bookworm debug symbol packages available for both espeak and espeakup that can avoid the need to recompile from source. The packages

Re: espeakup stops speaking bookworm arm64

2023-08-17 Thread Geoff Shang
Hello, I just updated to Bookworm on my work VM running under VMWare 17 under Windows 11 and am experiencing the same problem. This was not happening under Bullseye. The only other thing that I can add to what has already been described in this thread is that using conventional Debian

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

2023-05-30 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 30 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: I don't even know what you're talking about. If I knew what your message meant and how to do it, I'd gladly do it, but I don't understand your message, someone here must. In Debian, there is a package called tasksel. The program that it provides

Re: How to Install Basic Debian CLI System with Networking and screen reader

2023-05-29 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 28 May 2023, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: Hello, How do users install a basic Debian Command Line Interface (CLI) system with networking and NO Desktop Environmens or Desktop Manager installed? It's a little while since I've done it, but all I usually do is run the netinst image and not

Re: tty13-24

2022-12-26 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022, Frank Carmickle wrote: Does anyone know if this made it in to any debian changelog? I'm not sure when this changed, I certainly had to do it in Debian 8. I found this in the changelog for console-setup: console-setup (1.52) unstable; urgency=low * Use lv3:ralt_alt

Re: tty13-24

2022-12-26 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 25 Dec 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: I've only used a terminal, I'm unfamiliar with the benefits of one or more consoles over terminal windows. I like that I can hit a key and go straight to a specific terminal without having to faff about with alt-tabbing or control-tabbing to the right

Re: tty13-24

2022-12-21 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 20 Dec 2022, Frank Carmickle wrote: Interestingly, my sid system hasn't changed from the old behavior of using right alt for directly accessing tty13-tty24. My newly installed bullseye has me using left alt and shift to get there. Anyone know how to revert to old behavior? You need

Re: simple talking clock / reminder for when monitor is off and it is dark

2022-03-22 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 20 Mar 2022, Samuel Wales wrote: i want debian to tell me the time at certain times. for example tonight i have to take medicine at 2:40 am. I second the suggestions of at and cron. If you want a one-off reminder, use at. If you want a regular reminder use cron. Cron has a lot of

HOw to get more than 6 consoles in Bullseye

2022-03-19 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I know this isn't strictly an accessibility issue but I'm sure many of us do this. I like to use 24 consoles. But I just installed BullsEye on a VM and I can't figure out how to get any more than the default 6. * I tried setting NAutoVTs=24 in /etc/systemd/logind.conf * I tried

Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian

2021-11-17 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Sam Hartman wrote: It looks like bible-kjv ought to be a console accessible bible application. If not, bible-kjv- text includes just the text of that version of the bible. bible-kjv worked fine on the occasions that I've needed it. Doing an apt-cache search on the word

RE: editing files using VIM on remote server

2021-08-18 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 18 Aug 2021, Geoff Shang wrote: Your issue is caused by the time it takes for the cursor position to update. As a matter of interest, the setting for this in Speakup appears to be cursor_time and, in my install at least, is set to 120. But I'm still running Debian Jessie (yes, yes

RE: editing files using VIM on remote server

2021-08-18 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, Your issue is caused by the time it takes for the cursor position to update. When you are editing locally, you press down arrow, the screen reader waits some milliseconds for the cursor to move, then reads the current line. But if you are connecting to a remote server that's more than

Re: Audio problems with Debian, speech output and the latest VMware Workstation release :-(

2020-06-05 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020, Christian Schoepplein wrote: I unfortunatly have to use Debian in a virtual machine on a Windows 10 system. The virtualitation software I am using is VMware Workstation 15. Since the latest update of VMware Workstation to the version 15.5.5 the sound output and therefore

Re: RSGames client on Debian 10

2020-04-24 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if

Re: espeakup stopping speaking and slugish interuption of speech

2019-04-09 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 4 Apr 2019, Frank Carmickle wrote: on hold. If I run anything after these versions I run into trouble with espeakup stopping speaking.. Today I tried current buster and I’m still seeing these issues. A simple I forgot to report this in my email yesterday. The only trouble I ran

Re: Bug report: Buster: Debian Installer doesn't speak

2019-04-08 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 7 Apr 2019, Geoff Shang wrote: ah. My bad. So I have not ruled out a muted soundcard. I wil have to look at that. I did. It turns out that ALSA says it was indeed muted, but unmuting it didn't help. I wasn't able to find documentation on my Jessie system for what the -d

Re: Bug report: Buster: Debian Installer doesn't speak

2019-04-07 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 8 Apr 2019, Samuel Thibault wrote: The d-i image uses espeakup, which uses libespeak-ng directly, not espeak or espeak-ng. ah. My bad. So I have not ruled out a muted soundcard. I wil have to look at that. Thanks, Geoff.

Bug report: Buster: Debian Installer doesn't speak

2019-04-07 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I tried running both the 2019-04-07 (today) daily snapshot and the Alpha5 release of the Buster netinst, but both came up with no speech. Download URLs: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

Status of Stretch and Buster

2019-03-29 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I've been a bit out of the loop as regards Debian accessibility and other functionality. I've stil been using Debian but I've mainly been using Jessie all this time. I'm now getting a new PC and adding Linux to an old one, and I'd like to install something newer as well as upgrade my

Re: Ocrfeeder

2014-05-23 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, The package description says it can import PDFs, so go figure. There's also pdfimage in the poppler-utils package which is apparently good for extracting images from PDF documents. I've not used it though. HTH, Geoff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Bug#744849: espeakup: usb speakers inaccessible on use and during installation

2014-04-17 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 17 Apr 2014, Samuel Thibault wrote: Perhaps archlinux outputs to all cards at the same time? Or perhaps by luck archlinux gets the USB soundcard as first one? I'm pretty sure Debian prevents this as standard. From /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: # Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing

re: usb speakers problem

2014-04-10 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Jude DaShiell wrote: With an installed version of debian with espeakup running, if I run speaker-test surround40:1,0 the correct speakers get tested. How to translate that into a correct export command for /etc/default/espeakup is the next puzzle. cat /proc/asound/cards

Re: speakup usb problem

2014-03-31 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Jude DaShiell wrote: When I installed this instance of debian jessie/sid I had speakers attached through one of the sound cards. These were quarter-inch plug speakers not usb. When I moved I didn't take that set of speakers with me but did take a usb speaker set. With

re: speakup usb problem

2014-03-31 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 31 Mar 2014, Jude DaShiell wrote: Hi, I don't know what to replace export ALSA_CARD=0 with in /etc/default/espeak yet. Oops, sorry. I guess you should check that your speakers are being recognised at all first, Try this: cat /proc/asound/cards This should show youall the sound

Re: Bug#735202: Fwd: speakup freezes when trying to past

2014-02-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Mon, 3 Feb 2014, Jude DaShiell wrote: Although I used a debian speakup talking install to install jessie/sid, the installation did not put an ~/.inputrc file in my home directory. If one of those should be in the home directory, what should be in that file for speakup to work correctly?

Re: Bug#735202: speakup crashes debian

2014-02-04 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014, Jarek Czekalski wrote: By Janina, in speakup paste problem on debian http://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2014-January/058531.html This link quotes an earlier message - http://linux-speakup.org/pipermail/speakup/2014-January/058526.html which says in part: Jason,

Re: Bug#735202: speakup crashes debian

2014-02-02 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014, Paul Gevers wrote: On 26-01-14 19:28, Geoff Shang wrote: It seems to happen when working in more primitive environments with no readline. Triggered by the mail of Jude, do you confirm that installing readline prevents this bug from happening? Than indeed adding

Re: Any Accessible with Raspberry Pi

2013-10-29 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: I plan on buying a Raspberry Pi soon, and was wondering if Debian had a variant that works with it and if that variant has the Speakup modules. Yes. See http://RaspberryVI.org Though I see the Raspbian image I downloaded and installed is not

Re: Speech-enabled install using win32 loader

2013-10-08 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le Mon 07 Oct 2013 17:15:00 +0100, a écrit : Is it possible to trigger the behaviour we get with s at the command prompt, or is it possible to mimic this with kernel commandline parameters? The s shortcut is actually simply a shortcut

Re: Speech-enabled install using win32 loader

2013-10-08 Thread Geoff Shang
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote: Geoff Shang, le Tue 08 Oct 2013 11:51:48 +0100, a écrit : I don't know if this is inaccessible or if it just didn't come up. The Windows boot menu isn't accessible. Oh I didn't realise it was putting an entry in the windows boot menu. I went

Re: Possible Debian User

2013-10-07 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 5 Oct 2013, Hunter Jozwiak wrote: Hi all. I : a question about starting Debian accessibly with a screenreader so I can install it. I plan to use Virtual-box to do this, and was just wondering how I make it talk when I point VirtualBox to the disk and click start. Thanks for help.

Speech-enabled install using win32 loader

2013-10-07 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I've got a system that doesn't want to boot the CD. I'm almost 100% sure that the BIOS is set up correctly, as we've booted form CD in the past on this system. So I thought maybe I'd install it using the win32 launcher, but I want to be sure to get speech during the install, and

Getting Espeakup to open the soundcard instereo

2013-08-06 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I'm trying to get Espeakup working with an external USB soundcard, due to the crash issues one faces when using Espeakup with the internal soundcard on the Raspberry Pi. The problem I've run into is that the USB device doesn't know how to handle mono audio. If I play a stereo file, it

Re: Add info to Debian Accessibility page on Wiki

2013-05-31 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 31 May 2013, Manuel wrote: Somebody may add info in the Accessibility page on the Debian Wiki about how to shut up Speakup? My English is not very good, but this (shut ut speakup) can be done by pressing the CTRL key when Speakup start talking. Possibly you have to press ctrl key

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 RC2 release

2013-05-02 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 2 May 2013, Jude DaShiell wrote: Probably too complex to do, but if a pc speaker isn't available could a beep be redirected to a machine's default sound card? Don't se how it could be done without sound drivers. Geoff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Debian Installer 7.0 RC2 release

2013-05-01 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 1 May 2013, Samuel Thibault wrote: The issue was found and fixed, but that won't be in 7.0.0, only in 7.0.1. Had the issue been reported even just a couple of days before (the bug is there since alpha1 in July 2012!), it would have been in time for 7.0.0... Unfortunately, the machine

Working Weezy install media

2013-04-04 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I'm going to be working from someone else' house for the next two weeks. We need to put Linux on a machine there and I thought that perhaps Weezy would be the simplest as it talks without need of external speech. But I've heard that some recent images et al have been problematic with

Wheezy images and speech

2013-01-28 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I want to take a look at a system that currently doesn't have Linux on it. I went and grabbed the latest GRML, only to discover that speech output is no longer supported because there's no-one to maintain it. If anyone wants to, please get in touch with the GRML maintainers, I'm sure

Re: speakup speech rate

2012-06-02 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012, Holger Wansing wrote: Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net wrote: capslock-f5 slow speech and capslock-f6 speed speech. Sorry, but - no, capslock+F5 or capslock+F6 does not work (with the debian-installer wheezy-alpha1 release). It's just 5 and 6, not f5 and f6. Sorry

Re: Bug#645594: This is not a bug, it's a feature!

2011-11-12 Thread Geoff Shang
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011, Samuel Thibault wrote: flite_time does not want to talk about 4:31, but only 4:30, or 4:35, but not in between. Maybe it's just me, but this seems rather pointless. Yes I know analogue clocks usually only have marks for every 5 minutes, but you can see or feel the

Re: Espeakup-squeeze installer

2011-06-03 Thread Geoff Shang
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Samuel Thibault wrote: Kenny Hitt, le Fri 03 Jun 2011 04:37:20 -0500, a écrit : Hi. You can change the rate using echo Just echo the value to /sys/accessibility/speakup/soft/rate. The default on my system is 5, so to decrease the rate try a number from 1 to 4. Is there

Speech Dispatcher in Squeeze

2010-12-21 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, I read the thread a few months back regarding Speech Dispatcher in Squeeze with little interest, as it did not concern me at the time. But it does now. I looked at the thread again and also looked at the bug relating to its not working by default due to no pulseaudio and also the need

Re: Speech Dispatcher in Squeeze

2010-12-21 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010, Jason White wrote: The client loads it. For example, if I run spd-say as an ordinary user for the first time, a speech-dispatcher daemon is automatically invoked. Orca does the same. uh... OK... I don't really see how this works, but if you say it does... So a client

Re: Using Espeakup on something other than the default card

2010-12-18 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, Having sorted out how to do this with Espeakup, the next quesiton is, can this be done with Orca? Geoff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: bug in espeakup

2010-12-16 Thread Geoff Shang
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, mattias wrote: i try to use espeakup but update-rc.d: warning: espeakup start runlevel arguments (2 3 4 5) do not match LSB Default-Start values (S) I filed a bug report about this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=606953 Geoff. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Using Espeakup on something other than the default card

2010-12-15 Thread Geoff Shang
Hi, Just upgraded to Squeeze. I did this because I want to migrate over to software speech, as I can see that's the way forward, particularly if I want to use Gnome. But I want to use it on a card other than my default card. I would see switching to Espeakup as being a first step, but I

Re: Using Espeakup on something other than the default card

2010-12-15 Thread Geoff Shang
On Wed, 15 Dec 2010, Rynhardt Kruger wrote: The only way (I know of) to accomplish this is to do: export ALSA_CARD=1 espeakup hmmm, this appears to work. Not quite sure how to make use of it in a Debian context but it's good to know about, and will probably do what I want at least for