X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Mario Lang
Samuel Thibault writes: > Odd Martin Baanrud, le Sun 13 Feb 2011 22:47:05 +0100, a écrit : >> At 15:45 12.02.2011, you wrote: >> >> >It looks like Xorg having troubles with starting. [...] >> >BTW, do you have a physical screen attached to your desktop? >> >> Nope. >> I don't have place for i

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, adding debian-x@ to the loop. Mario Lang (15/02/2011): > > Please try to connect it. X driver developpers are not aware that > > it can be useful to start X without a physical screen attached. > > I've noticed this behaviour at least at one point in the past. > > I think we should follow

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Kenny Hitt
Hi. On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:44:28PM +0100, Mario Lang wrote: > Considering DVI, does X11 fail also if a modern monitor is just turned off? > > While I usually have a screen attached to allow cooperation with sighted > users, I can perfectly see how other users would try to use X11 without > a s

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Sebastian Humenda
Hello Mario, Mario Lang wrote on Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 02:44:28PM +0100: >Samuel Thibault writes: > >> Odd Martin Baanrud, le Sun 13 Feb 2011 22:47:05 +0100, a écrit : >>> At 15:45 12.02.2011, you wrote: >>> >>> >It looks like Xorg having troubles with starting. > >[...] > >>> >BTW, do you have

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Tue 15 Feb 2011 15:15:36 +0100, a écrit : > I guess it might be sufficient to do the same for other drivers (at > least making sure ati and nouveau support that would make sense, I > guess). Yes. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-accessibility-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Sebastian Humenda, le Tue 15 Feb 2011 16:52:37 +0100, a écrit : > But on my old machine, I've run Debian Squeeze, X and Orca without a > physical screen connected. I'm not sure why this worked, but it did. > Maybe it depends on the driver. Yes, and on the video card detection capabilities. Samuel

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois (15/02/2011): > We've tweaked this already for intel/vesa fallback, so that not > finding a screen doesn't put an end to the whole X start-up, and so > that other drivers are considered. For reference, on the -intel side: | commit 455f2939a661764ebb8d1747d44e16a0a8937808 | Author:

Re: X11 without a connected screen

2011-02-15 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 15:15:36 +0100, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Hi, > > adding debian-x@ to the loop. > > Mario Lang (15/02/2011): > > > Please try to connect it. X driver developpers are not aware that > > > it can be useful to start X without a physical screen attached. > > > > I've notice