Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread Michael Cree
On Fri, Oct 08, 2021 at 03:03:38AM +0200, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On 10/8/21 03:00, Rob Browning wrote: > > If we've never had a 3.0 viable for alpha, for example, then we can of > > course do whatever we like, with the realization that if we disable > > threads there now, we may be stuc

Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread Rob Browning
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > The alpha architecture is not part of any distribution which is why this > argument is moot. I was not asking for this option to be set to an release > architecture. > > Also, *if* we break the ABI, we can just rebuild all affected packages. We > do that with b

Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread Rob Browning
Rob Browning writes: > Given that, I think we may have at least these constraints: Oh, and I haven't figured out what the current situation is wrt the affected architectures on this front yet -- was just describing the constraints. If we've never had a 3.0 viable for alpha, for example, then we

Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread Rob Browning
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz writes: > Without --without-threads, guile would not build on SMP systems and even > the built package would crash on SMP systems. > > If disabling threads would break the ABI, we could just rebuild the affected > reverse dependencies on the builds using the normal binNM

Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 10/8/21 03:00, Rob Browning wrote: > If we've never had a 3.0 viable for alpha, for example, then we can of > course do whatever we like, with the realization that if we disable > threads there now, we may be stuck with that choice until 3.2. We can always break the ABI in a controlled manner.

Re: Bug#995614: guile-3.0: Please build with --without-threads on alpha to fix FTBFS

2021-10-07 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Hello Rob! On 10/8/21 02:56, Rob Browning wrote: > I've checked with upstream, and while they were not certain that > changing the --with-threads setting still breaks the library API, they > thought it probably did, which I believe means we have to assume that it > does (or could in the future), i