Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread lordSauron
I know it was a gross generalisation, but it's easier than making charts and graphs of situation-specific performance levels. Its wan't meant to be perfect, just a ballpark idea.

Re: soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-17 Thread Smugzilla
Tony Andrews wrote: I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice. I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread valentin_nils
Steve, can you be more specific please ? What do you intend to do with the server (Web,DB,DTP ;=) etc.) ? If you consider running MySQL on the Opteron then you are in VERY good hands *consult the mysql mailing list. There is enough info to keep you reading for a month or so. If you want to do DT

soundcard not detected by alsaconf

2005-09-17 Thread Tony Andrews
I've been trying all day to get the sound up and running, but no dice. I have the chaintech vnf4 ultra which has onboard nvidia sound. I have the snd-intel8x0 driver module and modprobe gives no error. I tried commenting out the oss modules but I'm not to sure that I did a thorough job(im a newb) H

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2005-09-18 at 13:18 +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:49:55PM -0700, lordSauron wrote: > > pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they > > take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done. AMD uses > > about 7 stages (or something in

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 06:49:55PM -0700, lordSauron wrote: > pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they > take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done. AMD uses > about 7 stages (or something in that neighbourhood) so if you divide > 2.8 by 21 and 2.0 (my Athl

Re: How to run qt3*

2005-09-17 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 08:35:17PM +0100, Matthias Reinhardt wrote: > Hi everybody, > > how can I get qt3* and all the necessary libqt3* workin. > I have several problems using appz with qt3 > > solution: 32bit chroot? There's no problem with qt3 on amd64. Do you have a particular package that i

Re: Marillat's repository is down

2005-09-17 Thread lordSauron
the only problem is that is that some of us are stuck with insufferable nincompoops for ISPs, like comcast and can't get anything decent for hosting ANYTHING (yes, you just touched one of my personal sore spots... I would be a great web developer if I only could host) I agree we should all be

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread lordSauron
oh... as for performance increases... pentium 4s use a 21 stage pipeline or something like that... so they take approximately 21 clock cycles to get anything done. AMD uses about 7 stages (or something in that neighbourhood) so if you divide 2.8 by 21 and 2.0 (my Athlon64) by 7, you get a really

Re: Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread lordSauron
I cannot reccommend AMD enough. I've had a Athlon1400 for the past 4 years or so, and it's still outperforming most of the lower-end pentium fours. Now I have a nice shiny new Athlon64 3000+, and it's really nice and fast. If you want to get an opteron, I'd really reccommend, if you have the mon

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Aethon
On 9/17/05, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As a followup to my other message: Now I understand."kernel-headers" as well as "kernel-image" are obsoleted, because thenew kernel package now creates "linux-image" as well as "linux-headers" packages.And the newest of these is linux-headers-2.6.12-1. T

How to run qt3*

2005-09-17 Thread Matthias Reinhardt
Hi everybody, how can I get qt3* and all the necessary libqt3* workin. I have several problems using appz with qt3 solution: 32bit chroot? greetz Matze. -- Leitfaden durch die Phraseologie wissenschaftlicher Veröffentlichungen: Englisch: Preliminary experiments showed that Deutsch: Wir hoff

CDROM problems in 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
updating to 2.6.12 has solved a few problems but has brought on the problem of kernel oop's when i try to mount a cdrom in 2.6.8-11-amd-k8 (and generic) cdrom works just fine. obviously this is very annoying before i complain that the nvidia drivers are unstable and only show half my video mem

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Frank
As a followup to my other message: Now I understand. "kernel-headers" as well as "kernel-image" are obsoleted, because the new kernel package now creates "linux-image" as well as "linux-headers" packages. And the newest of these is linux-headers-2.6.12-1. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PRO

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Frank
Now that you mention it, I notice that these packages reside beneath "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" in aptitude. Don't ask me, where I got them from though ... If it helps you, I could send them via E-Mail to you: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2854290 2005-06-29 19:02 kernel-headers-2.6.11-

Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
i updated to 2.6.12 (from debian) and it works fine now cheers Dean Yannick - Debian/Linux wrote: Hi, I've a different chip but with the same driver as you : it seems broken on the debian kernel 2.6.8, try another one. I've no problem getting sound with other kernels (provided by debian or k

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Aethon
On 9/17/05, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The packages exists for me. But I have only "testing" sourcesin my list, no "unstable" ones.Maybe you need to put the deb-src entry there? I actually do have the deb-src there as well, I forgot to mention that.  $ aptitude search kernel-headers i A kerne

Re: Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Frank
The packages exists for me. But I have only "testing" sources in my list, no "unstable" ones. Maybe you need to put the deb-src entry there? $ aptitude search kernel-headers i A kernel-headers-2.6.11-9 - Header files related to Linux kernel vers i kernel-headers-2.6.11-9-amd64-k - Linux

Re: Are these emails getting posted?

2005-09-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 17:08 -0400, Steve Dondley wrote: > I am not receiving copies of e-mail I am sending to this list as I > should. Or maybe I'm not supposed to? Can someone please let me know > if they get this? Thanks. Sorry for the hassle. Yes, all 3 emails arrived. --

Kernel Headers for 2.6.11

2005-09-17 Thread Aethon
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 to 2.6.11-amd64-k8. The package installs fine and boots up ok, and even recognizes my sound card (which the 2.6.8 kernel does not, hence the reason I'm upgrading). The problem is when I try to install the nvidia module. I've installed the

Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Skutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> You install ia32-libs as specified per depends. > FWIW, I did some hacking and got amd64-archive to successfully build > libgcc1, and then installed it with a new version of ia32-libc6 that > Conflicts on ia32-libs. Every

Are these emails getting posted?

2005-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
I am not receiving copies of e-mail I am sending to this list as I should. Or maybe I'm not supposed to? Can someone please let me know if they get this? Thanks. Sorry for the hassle. -- Dondley Communications http://www.dondleycommunications.com Communicate or Die: American Labor Unions and

Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge. This is only my second server purchase. My first server runs Debian Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz. Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would see? I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparis

Re: Marillat's repository is down

2005-09-17 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux
Yannick - Debian/Linux a écrit : Marc F. Clemente a écrit : How hard is it to be a mirror for the marillat/amd64 stuff on cyberspace.ucla.edu? If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some space and bandwith. I already run Apache. I just need to figure out the directory structure, and whe

Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge. This is only my second server purchase. My first server runs Debian Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz. Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would see? I've tried hunting around for benchmark compari

Dupal Opteron on Sarge

2005-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm thinking about purchasing a dual Opteron server to run on Sarge. This is only my second server purchase. My first server runs Debian Woody on a single Petium 4, 2.8 GHz. Can someone give me an idea of what kind of performance gain I would see? I've tried hunting around for benchmark comparis

Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

2005-09-17 Thread Adam Skutt
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > You install ia32-libs as specified per depends. FWIW, I did some hacking and got amd64-archive to successfully build libgcc1, and then installed it with a new version of ia32-libc6 that Conflicts on ia32-libs. Everything seem to install ok, and OpenOffice.org seems

Re: util-linux.

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Chris Wakefield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi all. > > I've still in a rut with my installation. I can't seem to get past > util-linux: > > dpkg -l util-linux > Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold > | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed > |/ Err?=(no

Re: http://http.us.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ gone?

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
lordSauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Somewhat related, but not really, (I'm shy about starting new > threads), I was wondering what mirrors there are for amd64-k8 or > otherwise amd64 compatible packages. Right now I'm using the > following mirrors: Run apt-setup. > deb http://linux.csua.be

Re: Amd64 archive

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 12:32:21AM +0200, Ernest jw ter Kuile wrote: >> On Sunday 11 September 2005 19:03, v0n0 wrote: >> > Will other updates come for amd64-archive package for applications like >> > Wine? >> >> ?? >> >> This last question is really

Re: ia32-libs must still be installed when using amd64-archive?

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Skutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hey, > Hopefully someone can clarify something here. > > I'm running Debian/amd64 unstable. I download the 0.2 version of > amd64-archive and it works great. > > However, when I go to install ia32-libc6, it wants to grab lib32gcc1, > which in turn requires

Re: dvd+rw-tools and dvdrecord problem / solution

2005-09-17 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 17.09.2005 04:04:00, Will Dyson a écrit : On 9/16/05, ael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lennart Sorensen wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:55:56PM -0400, Will Dyson wrote: > > > >>I think your use of DVD-RWs is the problem. The dvd+rw-format tool is > >>only useful for +RW discs. As you've

Re: Marillat's repository is down

2005-09-17 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux
Marc F. Clemente a écrit : How hard is it to be a mirror for the marillat/amd64 stuff on cyberspace.ucla.edu? If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some space and bandwith. I already run Apache. I just need to figure out the directory structure, and where to get the files. Marc Hi,

Re: Upgrading kernel

2005-09-17 Thread antongiulio05
> > However installation exits with error (and I don't know why cos > > error is not returned). I have noticed that kernel 2.6.13pr3 > > headers is installed, and this has many dependencies... > > linux-kernel-headers has nothing to do with the kernel images in the > first place. which kernel pa

Re: Marillat's repository is down

2005-09-17 Thread Marc F. Clemente
How hard is it to be a mirror for the marillat/amd64 stuff on cyberspace.ucla.edu? If 1.5 Mbps is good enough, I can donate some space and bandwith. I already run Apache. I just need to figure out the directory structure, and where to get the files. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL

Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

2005-09-17 Thread Yannick - Debian/Linux
Hi, I've a different chip but with the same driver as you : it seems broken on the debian kernel 2.6.8, try another one. I've no problem getting sound with other kernels (provided by debian or kernel.org). Regards Yannick Dean Hamstead a écrit : 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 straight from the mirror

Re: Upgrading kernel

2005-09-17 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 07:57:30PM +0200, antongiulio05 wrote: > However installation exits with error (and I don't know why cos > error is not returned). I have noticed that kernel 2.6.13pr3 > headers is installed, and this has many dependencies... linux-kernel-headers has nothing to do

Re: Upgrading kernel

2005-09-17 Thread antongiulio05
> I believe the kernel packages have been renamed from kernel-image-... > to linux-image-...; you might want to give that a try. There is a > package called "linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8", at least. :-) Thanks. I didn't know it, my last update was in July... However installation exits with error

Re: amd-64 vs Pure-64

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Simonucci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 23:26 +0200, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda wrote: >> Thank's Stefano, >> >> I will try to reproduce it soon. >> >> It's surprise me if it's really so easy and no package for amd64. >> >> Leo > > The openoffice 1.9 is unstable (be

Re: TODO for amd64 arch to be included officially in debian.

2005-09-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Kurt Roeckx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:30:58PM +0200, Marco Amadori wrote: >> Hi all, >> I would like to know if there is a to do list to help out in the inclusion >> of >> amd64 as a supported debian architecture. >> >> I'm using this unofficial arch for more than

Re: Upgrading kernel

2005-09-17 Thread Michael Haupt
Giulio, On 9/17/05, antonio giulio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13... How can I get an update > for kernel? Only via-source? In apt-tree I can't find kernel 2.6.12/13 > source code too... I believe the kernel packages have been renamed from kernel-image-...

Upgrading kernel

2005-09-17 Thread antonio giulio
Hi, I have kernel: $ uname -a Linux mybox 2.6.11-9-amd64-k8 #1 Wed Jun 29 17:33:01 CEST 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux but I cannot open cd/dvd or burning cos I get '/dev/sg0-nightmare permission denied' and seem don't exist solution for it, and so I wanna try with new kernel versions using udev. In apt

Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-17 Thread Tim T.
On 9/17/05, Tim Matthews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs?tim that's one option, that I'll need to investigate anyway.. Anyway; I managed to get decent sound quality: I installed realplayer 8 wich I found in a legacy directory somewhere.  Anybody understand w

Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-17 Thread Tim Matthews
maybe try mplayer with the realplay codecs? tim Tim T. wrote: On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tim, one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses realplayer.. I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64; tried building t

Re: Realplayer ?

2005-09-17 Thread Tim T.
On 9/16/05, Tobias Krais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Tim,>   one thing I miss is being able to listen to the bbc, which uses> realplayer..>   I've googled, but I can't locate a realplayer or clone for Amd-64;> tried building>   the Helixplayer, but that turned out to be a bit more work than I am

Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
2.6.8-11-amd64-k8 straight from the mirror Dean Frederik Schueler wrote: Hello, On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of 'unstable' Which kernel version are you using? does it work with linux-image-2

Re: Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

2005-09-17 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:45:24PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: > any ideas? this kernel is a tad old - although its straight out of > 'unstable' Which kernel version are you using? does it work with linux-image-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 (or what your flavour is)? Best regards Frederik Schueler -

Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
ok huray video works on to sound this board has an Realtek ALC850 8-channel audio CODEC which in lspci is CK804 AC97 audio codec. the realtek site claims this is supported with snd-intel8x0 alsa-conf shows up nothing, modprobing it works but the card isnt detected any ideas? this kernel is a ta

Re: building nvidia drivers

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
works with xorg rather than xfree also the 'nv' driver over the 'nvidia' driver doesnt have good results. im using a 6600gt pci-e Dean Simon Guerrero wrote: This worked for me: This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic. Good luck Simon == Make sure the following are

Re: building nvidia drivers

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
any reason for xfree over xorg? Simon Guerrero wrote: This worked for me: This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic. Good luck Simon == Make sure the following are in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 stable main non-free contrib deb htt

Re: Re: amd-64 vs Pure-64

2005-09-17 Thread Marc F. Clemente
I tried building ooo2 but was unsuccessful. I used version 1.9.125. Eventually the build failed at: Making: ../../../unxlngx4.pro/slo/vbaapplication.obj This is the same problem reported in this message: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/09/msg00303.html If anybody can get past this,

Re: building nvidia drivers

2005-09-17 Thread Simon Guerrero
This worked for me: This worked for me for kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic. Good luck Simon == Make sure the following are in /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 stable main non-free contrib deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64 unstable main non-free

building nvidia drivers

2005-09-17 Thread Dean Hamstead
hi all just did a clean install on my shiny new amd64 before i post mboard specs (im running on a dfi lanparty ut sli-d) can someone shed some light on why i cant built the nvidia drivers i followed the instructions on alioth it didnt work ;) now for some details (as root)... mele:/usr/src/ker