Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Hamish Moffat wrote : >> And you might want to give Ubuntu a try. The amd64 version is quite > > How nice of you to say so on the debian-amd64 list! More like how > insulting... Dear Hamish, I am not a total newbie in using Linux or Debian (I must still have e set of floppies bearing ham, in th

Re: nvidia in 32bits chroot

2005-10-06 Thread Jo Shields
Levi Bard wrote: Ah, I had forgotten about the Q3 source. But Doom 3? I have not heard that you can run Doom 3 natively. Last I heard, from id themselves, they *might* do it in the distant future. I'm betting they will - they have a good track record of doing so with quake 1-3 as well as

Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:17:14AM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > Hamish Moffat wrote : > >> And you might want to give Ubuntu a try. The amd64 version is quite > > How nice of you to say so on the debian-amd64 list! More like how > > insulting... > > I am not a total newbie in using Linux o

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Helge Hafting
Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 03:26:12PM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote: And you might want to give Ubuntu a try. The amd64 version is quite How nice of you to say so on the debian-amd64 list! More like how insulting... There is no need to take offense. We all know wha

Re: kile crashes with kde 3.4

2005-10-06 Thread DR GAVIN SEDDON
Does your wizard work, those 'other' things work on mine? Am I being greedy? On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 10:22 +0200, antongiulio05 wrote: > Hi, > > > Kile 1.8 crashes on kde 3.4, The error is sigsegv. > > > > Will compiling again work? > > I'm using kile 1.8.1 on kde 3.4.2 and it works perfectly. I

Re: 2.6.13, experimental and 2.6.14-rc ...

2005-10-06 Thread Marco Amadori
Alle 00:49, giovedì 6 ottobre 2005, hai scritto: > Great - would you mind adding this to the wiki page, w/ new columns as > appropriate (I didn't seed it w/ evms or lvm over raid) > > http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions I cannot, page is not editable -- ESC:wq

Re: 2.6.13, experimental and 2.6.14-rc ...

2005-10-06 Thread Marco Amadori
Alle 00:49, giovedì 6 ottobre 2005, hai scritto: > Great - would you mind adding this to the wiki page, w/ new columns as > appropriate (I didn't seed it w/ evms or lvm over raid) > > http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions Sorry all, I just missed login options... modified now. -- ES

it wasn't SATA

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Sheldrick
I now finally tested my system with a IDE HD (HDD EIDE 200GB SAMSUNG SP2014N 7200 8) but again while partitioning the debian installer exits with: "Kernel panic - not syncing: PCI-DMA: high address but no IOMMU". So its certain that its not the HD! As Lennart Sorensen pointed that error usally occu

problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Michele Concina
Hello! I'm running debian amd64 unstable with kernel 2.6.12 and i'm not able to mount my dvd-rw. Why i try to mount it, it say to me: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslo

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 06.10.2005 13:06:15, Michele Concina a écrit : Hello! I'm running debian amd64 unstable with kernel 2.6.12 and i'm not able to mount my dvd-rw. Why i try to mount it, it say to me: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 missing codepage or other error

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:06:15PM +0200, Michele Concina wrote: > I'm running debian amd64 unstable with kernel 2.6.12 and i'm not able to > mount my dvd-rw. > Why i try to mount it, it say to me: > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 > missing codepage or

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Jo Shields
Michele Concina wrote: Hello! I'm running debian amd64 unstable with kernel 2.6.12 and i'm not able to mount my dvd-rw. Why i try to mount it, it say to me: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is f

i don't think its the RAM

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Sheldrick
i just ran Memtest86+ v1.51 over the RAM and after two passes there where no Errors - so its unlikley that there is anything wrong with it. so: (1) the RAM is ok (2) its compatible with my mobo its not the RAM either! - Peter __

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Michele Concina
Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh) wrote: which kind of disk/dvd is inside the drive when you want to mount it? A normal data cd..it's not that, i know coze with the dvd works properly -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Michele Concina
Hamish Moffatt wrote: What if you try iso9660 only as in mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /media/dvdrw same error but now dmesg says: attempt to access beyond end of device sr0: rw=0, want=68, limit=4 isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=sr0, iso_blknum=16, block=16 Maybe the disk is bad? Is it

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Michele Concina
Jo Shields wrote: Is it really a SCSI DVD writer? There have been many problems lately with people whose IDE writers have been claimed by ide-scsi (broken in 2.6 kernels) instead of ide-cd --Jo Shields No, but kernel automatically used scsi emulation..should i remove it? If yes, how? --

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Jo Shields
Michele Concina wrote: Jo Shields wrote: Is it really a SCSI DVD writer? There have been many problems lately with people whose IDE writers have been claimed by ide-scsi (broken in 2.6 kernels) instead of ide-cd --Jo Shields No, but kernel automatically used scsi emulation..should i remo

Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Thomas Steffen
On 10/6/05, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:17:14AM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: ... > Nonwhistanding this experience, I have> to tell that, when I made a very serious effort to install debian-amd64 > on a new shiny laptop, I had the hardest time Debian g

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:49:33AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > There is no need to take offense. We all know what distro ubuntu is > based on, > where would they be without debian? Now, ubuntu may have a few nice > addons not in debian - if that is a problem, just grab & include them. > Ubuntu

Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:21:25PM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote: > I do not thing that blaming the user is a helpful approach. Anyway, this > thread and others show that Debian amd64 is not currently suitable for > newbies: the risk of encountering serious installation issues is just too > high. No

Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 10:17:14AM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > I am not a total newbie in using Linux or Debian (I must still have e > set of floppies bearing ham, in the same box where lies my treasured > two-floppies linux 0.12 lies...). Nonwhistanding this experience, I have > to tel

Re: i don't think its the RAM

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:55:50PM +0200, Peter Sheldrick wrote: > i just ran Memtest86+ v1.51 over the RAM and after two > passes there where no Errors - so its unlikley that > there is anything wrong with it. > > so: > (1) the RAM is ok > (2) its compatible with my mobo > > its not the RAM eit

Re: Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 03:21:25PM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote: > On 10/6/05, Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an nForce3-based Athlon64 desktop system and the installation was > > perfect. I suspect my scenario is far more common than yours. > > I do not thing that blaming the u

Re: i don't think its the RAM

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:55:50PM +0200, Peter Sheldrick wrote: > i just ran Memtest86+ v1.51 over the RAM and after two > passes there where no Errors - so its unlikley that > there is anything wrong with it. > > so: > (1) the RAM is ok > (2) its compatible with my mobo > > its not the RAM eit

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:06:15PM +0200, Michele Concina wrote: > Hello! > I'm running debian amd64 unstable with kernel 2.6.12 and i'm not able to > mount my dvd-rw. > Why i try to mount it, it say to me: > > mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd0 > missing co

Re: problem mounting dvd-rw

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 02:40:03PM +0200, Michele Concina wrote: > A normal data cd..it's not that, i know coze with the dvd works properly You should not use udf to mount a cd. Use iso9660 filesystem instead. Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsub

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Dear Lennart, dear list, Didn't want to start a shouting contest ... So a fast answer with lots of [ Snips ... ] : Lennart Sorensen wrote: [ Snip... ] Laptops love proprietary hardware. New laptop implies new chips, which of course require a newer than that kernel to support. The kernel i

Debian based distros was Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Nigel Ridley
Helge Hafting wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 03:26:12PM +0200, Thomas Steffen wrote: >> >> >>> And you might want to give Ubuntu a try. The amd64 version is quite >>> >> >> >> How nice of you to say so on the debian-amd64 list! More like how >> insulting... >> >

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:37:26PM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > No choice nowadays when you buy a laptop. At least, this one can be used > with free drivers (fbdev, ati, radeon ...), which is more than one can > say of most laptop video hardware. And yes, I checked that point before > bu

GoDaddy.com Order Confirmation

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Re: i don't think its the RAM

2005-10-06 Thread Andrew Chant
Could you try using the daily installer from amd64.debian.net from sept. 22? This is the one I used, I have the same mobo as you, original bios, and I have no problems. I wonder if they changed something in the kernel that is part of that build. The sata_uli there should work fine. On 10/6/05,

Re: Mozilla Thunderbird bug?

2005-10-06 Thread Simon Guerrero
Hi I'm using Thunderbird 1.0.2 right now on kernel 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic and it saves outgoing messages just fine. I too am using Cyrus-imap onto another Debian server which is the mail host. If there is a known bug, it doesn't seem to affect me. For the record, I migrated the profile (ftp!

Re: Asus K8N, Cool'n'Quiet, and sensors.conf

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Cordes
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:07:35AM -0500, David Wood wrote: > Has anyone else noticed instability when using cpufreq modules? > > I have a pretty stable system, but I get OOPSes within a few hours or days > of using cpufreq_ondemand, and I've had a few crashes I was pretty sure > were related to

Re: it wasn't SATA

2005-10-06 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 01:11:15PM +0200, Peter Sheldrick wrote: > "Kernel panic - not syncing: PCI-DMA: high address but > no IOMMU". So its certain that its not the HD! did you activate the IOMMU in the bios? which kernel version are you trying here, can you attach a dmesg and the .conf

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Adam Skutt
Helge Hafting wrote: The limit is 4GB. No, wrong. The limit is 64 GiB physical RAM, period. PAE has been part of the ISA for pratically forever now, so it's silly to say it's anything else. However, practically, Linux can only use 16 GiB physical RAM without special patches, because of how th

libcurl3 vs libcurl3-gnutls

2005-10-06 Thread David Liontooth
Is there a story behind the conflict between packages depending on libcurl3 vs libcurl3-gnutls? # wajig install xine-ui Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libcurl3-gnutls Suggested packages: libldap2-dev The following

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:37:26PM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > >>In contrast, putting an Ubuntu (amd64 5.10 preview) CD in the drive and > >And what kernel does that version of ubuntu use and when was it > >released? > 2.6.12... Please compare apples with apples. You used a pre-release U

Re: i don't think its the RAM

2005-10-06 Thread Hank Barta
On 10/6/05, Peter Sheldrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i just ran Memtest86+ v1.51 over the RAM and after two > passes there where no Errors - so its unlikley that > there is anything wrong with it. > > so: > (1) the RAM is ok > (2) its compatible with my mobo > > its not the RAM either! When I

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread David Liontooth
Hamish Moffatt wrote: >On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:37:26PM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > > In contrast, putting an Ubuntu (amd64 5.10 preview) CD in the drive and >>>And what kernel does that version of ubuntu use and when was it >>>released? >>> >>> >>2.6.12..

openoffice

2005-10-06 Thread sigi
Hi, can anyone out there describe me a way to install openoffice on a amd64-system without chroot? I found some links around the web, but nothing worked here... all the install-candidates I found failed. Thought, that it was possible installing OOo without chroot... Thanks for your help, s

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Clive Menzies
On (06/10/05 16:36), David Liontooth wrote: > Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > >On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 06:37:26PM +0200, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > It's worth keeping in mind that Ubuntu is built on and refines Debian, > syncs with it before a new release, and could not possibly succeed > without Deb

Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
In The Night wrote: > Which modules and what Mobo? Mobo: Asus A8V Modules: powernow_k8, cpufreq_ondemand (and dependss, of course) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies 220 200 180 100 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /sys/devices/sys

update time

2005-10-06 Thread Dr Gavin Seddon
Hi, I looked in the archives and to update my console clock the command is 'ntupdate' however this doesn't work. Can anyone tell me the command? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: update time

2005-10-06 Thread Wesley J. Landaker
On Thursday 06 October 2005 18:25, Dr Gavin Seddon wrote: > Hi, I looked in the archives and to update my console clock the command > is 'ntupdate' however this doesn't work. Can anyone tell me the > command? There is "ntpdate" (set the time from an NTP server), "date" (read or set the local clo

Re: perspectives on 32 bit vs 64 bit

2005-10-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > - "Holier than Stallman" Free Software bigots, who object at anything > not GPL, unable to understand the value of a temporary compromise... (e. > g. refusing to provide a pointer to libdvdcss in totem or xine docs) Ummm, totem and xine docs not mentioning it (if tha

Re: Asus K8N, Cool'n'Quiet, and sensors.conf

2005-10-06 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Peter Cordes wrote: > Even when running at 2.2GHz (full > speed) with only one stick of RAM (1024MB OCZ), it sometimes shows a cluster > of memory errors in memtest. It doesn't seem significantly different from > with both sticks of RAM, the other being a 512MB Infineon, IIRC. All DDR400. What h

Re: USB printer

2005-10-06 Thread Mike Dobbs
Ok I know how to manually fix it. I can turn on the printer, /etc/init.d/hotplug restart, /etc/init.d/cupsys restart, and enable C42UX. SHould I tell hotplug to restart itself when the printer is connected? I'm still running sid? On Sun, 2005-10-02 at 02:24 +0100, Paul Brook wrote: > On Sunday

Re: update time

2005-10-06 Thread John C. Martin
On Thursday 06 October 2005 8:46 pm, Wesley J. Landaker wrote: > There is "ntpdate" (set the time from an NTP server), "date" (read or set > the local clock), and "hwclock" (query and set the hardware > clock--generaelly you don't need to run this manually). Speaking of ntpdate: Last I checked the

Re: Athlon64 Dual Core powernow

2005-10-06 Thread Karl Magdsick
AMD Cool'n'Quiet is cpu_freq + automatic CPU voltage adjustment, at least according to the blurbs on the Asus website. I'm not sure how much OS cooperation is required and how much bios tweaking is required. -Karl > > BTW: What is the AMD Cool'n'Quiet stuff? Is that just marketing speak > for

Re: openoffice

2005-10-06 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 06 October 2005 15:39, sigi wrote: > Hi, > > can anyone out there describe me a way to install openoffice on a > amd64-system without chroot? > > I found some links around the web, but nothing worked here... all the > install-candidates I found failed. > > Thought, that it was possible

Is KDE 3.4.2 transition over?

2005-10-06 Thread Alexandru Cardaniuc
Hi All! Is KDE 3.4.2 transition over in SID? Can I safely dist-upgrade? -- Sincerely yours, Alexandru Cardaniuc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Asus K8N, Cool'n'Quiet, and sensors.conf

2005-10-06 Thread Anders Helmersson
On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 18:06:39 -0300, Peter Cordes wrote: > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 10:07:35AM -0500, David Wood wrote: > > Has anyone else noticed instability when using cpufreq modules? > > > > I have a pretty stable system, but I get OOPSes within a few hours > > or days of using cpufreq_ondema

Re: kile crashes with kde 3.4

2005-10-06 Thread antongiulio05
> Does your wizard work, those 'other' things work on mine? Am I being > greedy? Yes, it works perfectly too. No crashes. Can you reproduce conditions of bug? Giulio -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]