AMD64 port compromised ?

2006-07-12 Thread Emmanuel Fleury
Hi, Is the AMD64 branch of Debian compromised as well by the problem on gluck.debian.org ? See: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg3.html Regards -- Emmanuel Fleury | Office: 211 Associate Professor, | Phone: +33 (0)5 40 00 35 24 LaBRI, Domaine Uni

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread David Pashley
On Jul 12, 2006 at 21:52, Art Edwards praised the llamas by saying: > I posted the same initial message on the three sites I thought were > appropriate. My plea for honesty was a measure of frustration with > what should be well-established packages. It turns out that in the newer > distros, the st

Re: No sound on etch when using video players

2006-07-12 Thread Sam Varghese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 12:30:20PM +0200 P|pex said: > --- Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > I can play audio CDs using the KDE player kscd but > > the gnome player and > > xmms do not work. > > > > No matter which video player I us

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
It would have been nice to know that the structure of /usr/X11R6 had changed completely so that it broke my .cshrc file. This fix was on an ubuntu list and was found by Ozzy Lash (again, thanks). On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:17:38PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:56:5

Re: apparent crashes persist.

2006-07-12 Thread Corey Hickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Once again, when it crashes, I can sometimes still manage to use a ssh connection to get in from elsewhere. What information should I collect, and how should I analyse it? Start with 'dmesg'. Look for anything erroneous and/or send the output to the list. You can als

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
I posted the same initial message on the three sites I thought were appropriate. My plea for honesty was a measure of frustration with what should be well-established packages. It turns out that in the newer distros, the structure of /usr/X11R6 has changed dramatically enough that it broke a .cshrc

Re: Broken applications: We are honest:)

2006-07-12 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi again I tried to download the sources for xmgrace and recompile it and now it works beautifully. I even managed to make a graph and export it to a png file. But I have a problem myself. Everytime I try to file a bug with reportbug I get the message back with a lot of iso8859-1 message

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread ldoolitt
On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:56:57PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 03:11:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Before I bought my machine (18 months ago, now) I benchmarked it > > on the code that I use. It was 10 times faster than my old 500 MHz > > Pentium-III, and 30

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Jimmy Tang
Hi, On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 01:29:37PM -0600, Art Edwards wrote: > Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look > for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI > compiler, > mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because > of, m

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Thanks very much. See below. On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 02:54:14PM -0500, Ozzy Lash wrote: > On 7/12/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at > >the bottom is dead. > >The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread David Pashley
On Jul 12, 2006 at 20:39, Art Edwards praised the llamas by saying: > The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the > bottom is dead. > The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all > text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general proble

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Thierry Chatelet
Ozzy Lash wrote: On 7/12/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the bottom is dead. The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem beca

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
On Sun, Jul 09, 2006 at 03:11:19PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Art Edwards wrote: > > This brought up the question, who uses 64 bit Linux anyway? > > Well, me, and that's all I really care about. > > > It can't be the desktop > > community, seeing that the standard office tool doesn't reall

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Ozzy Lash
On 7/12/06, Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the bottom is dead. The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same is t

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi again I have ddd, version 3.3.11 and the console is not dead. I write break and it responds with no breakpoint address now (I will try to recover my debugger knowledge this summer). xmgrace in fact crashed with *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x007a4740 *** aft

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
The point is that they do not work exactly fine. For ddd, the console at the bottom is dead. The keyboard fails. For grace(xmgrace) the same symptom is present in all text boxes. This appears to be a pretty general problem because the same is true for Fedora Core 5, but not for Fedora Core 4. I

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Excuse me for chiming in, but I think many places simply look for the best performance and productivity/dollar(euro). We do use the PGI compiler, mostly because gnu had not had a f90-f95 compiler, and partly because of, maybe, a 10% improvement in speed. What I find interesting is that both Fedo

Re: apparent crashes persist.

2006-07-12 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jun 25, 2006 at 02:53:17PM +, Dimitris Lampridis wrote: > On Sunday 25 June 2006 12:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Left it running overnight. 9 full passes through memory, *no* faults > > detected. > > > > If you search recent posts on the list, you'll see that I also had problems

Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-12 Thread Art Edwards
Thanks for your response. We have the pgi compiler on the head node of a very old, 32-bit beowulf. I do my production calculations on a very nice large, 64-bit cluster at a national laboratory, but my desktop machine had, until about 6 weeks ago, been a 1.4 GHz 32-bit machine. The graphics had bec

Re: Copy/paste using third mouse button on some X apps

2006-07-12 Thread Antti Pyykko
On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Igor TAmara wrote: Hi, I've noticed that when I select with the mouse some text on emacs and xterm, I can not paste on gnome-terminal, if I use xchat or firefox, I can copy paste to gnome-terminal. Inside emacs I'm able to copy/paste with the mouse, but not from emacs to ot

Re: failure to start kernel k8-smp

2006-07-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
This "sent-again" to refer that I have examined the *.out file for the mpqc b3lyp MCSearch OO geometry optimization for the C22H25NO6 molekule. max_iteration = 40 was felt, because the calculation went to iteration 13 (converged at line optimization step 3), when the system crashed (kernel pani

Copy/paste using third mouse button on some X apps

2006-07-12 Thread Igor TAmara
Hi, I've noticed that when I select with the mouse some text on emacs and xterm, I can not paste on gnome-terminal, if I use xchat or firefox, I can copy paste to gnome-terminal. Inside emacs I'm able to copy/paste with the mouse, but not from emacs to other, emacs do receives pasting when sourcin

Re: failure to start kernel k8-smp

2006-07-12 Thread Scott Reese
Francesco Pietra wrote: > If this is the situation, I hope that a suggestion will come whether to > unistall (I still have the generic kernel) > linux-image-2.6.15-1-amd64-k8-smp > and install > linux-image-2.6.16-1-amd64-k8-smp > should it exist. Why replacement does not occur on > #aptitude u

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2006-07-12 Thread Oliver Barker
to gawk that you couldn't push your way through them. And it was so typical. "To fly as fast as thought, to anywhere that is," he said, "you must begin I went past the parking lot. There was a checkpoint there. There were old one had ever flown. Why, with half the effort, he thought, I'll

Re: No sound on etch when using video players

2006-07-12 Thread P|pex
--- P|pex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > --- Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > I can play audio CDs using the KDE player kscd but > > the gnome player and > > xmms do not work. > > > > No matter which video player I use - totem, > mplayer > > or kaffeine - I > > get no sou

Re: No sound on etch when using video players

2006-07-12 Thread P|pex
--- Sam Varghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > I can play audio CDs using the KDE player kscd but > the gnome player and > xmms do not work. > > No matter which video player I use - totem, mplayer > or kaffeine - I > get no sound. Do you have daemon sound server installed? Please check that

Re: kernel error, packages, unstable

2006-07-12 Thread Francesco Pietra
Thanks for detailing your experience and for your patience. However, before moving, I decided to wait for the whole day, until a balanced view, which hopefully also takes into account the (problem ?) of /lib32. On Wednesday 12 July 2006 09:15, Gudjon I. Gudjonsson wrote: > Hi >I hope I am no

kernel error, packages, unstable

2006-07-12 Thread Gudjon I. Gudjonsson
Hi I hope I am not forcing my solutions to the list. I have had the problem with kernel 2.6 14 and 2.6.15 (2.6.13 never installed) that the computer froze, most often during heavy simulation but also without anything happening. The same happened to some i386 machines as well. With kernels 2