On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit :
>> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve?
>> >
>> > The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked
Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit :
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve?
> >
> > The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result
> > of using pkg-config (and various other -conf
> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary.
It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the
initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it.
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve?
>
> The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result
> of using pkg-config (and various other -config variants), though there
> are other, lesser, culprits. The pkg-c
On 16.11.2010 01:24, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote:
While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for
preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree
with the u
On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote:
For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs
(turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The
rationale is summarized in
http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOL
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote:
While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for
preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree
with the use of --as-needed *at all*.
> On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote:
> yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-needed.
That is a pretty nutty choice.
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On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote:
> maybe, and fix it in N - ~100 packages? Or fix the ~100 packages?
> The point of injection is for discussion. I would prefer having
> this set in dpkg-buildflags, and then disabled by these ~100
> packages. Note that this is proba
On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote:
While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for
preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree
with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly
linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This is
On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote:
airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too?
mattst88: yes
The naming of the options makes people easily confused.
--no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes.
yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-ne
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:58:52PM -0300, Felipe Valverde wrote:
> Definitively the culprit is the new driver. I tried the testing and the
> > unstable driver but they just do not work properly. They will freeze my
> > laptop as soon as I try to connect to a wireless network. My fix is just a
> > b
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