Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-18 Thread Tim Cutts
On 14 Oct 2005, at 8:06 am, mike wrote: Basically, I'd be looking at an Intel 830D (3.0ghz, dual-core, EM64T) processor-based system, with 1 gig of ram and SATA HD vs. a single-core Opteron 1.8ghz (or a dual-processor NOT dual-core Opteron 1.8ghz) system, same HD and same RAM. Has anyone had th

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-15 Thread Pete Harlan
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0700, mike wrote: > The main question is 64-bit support using Debian-amd64/kernel 2.6.x > [on EM64T]. Is it any different than installing Debian-amd64 on an > Opteron box? In my experience, no, it's no different at all. Ignoring speed/whatever, running Sarge 64

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread mike
On 10/14/05, Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Do you know what chipset/motherboard the p4 system would be using? > LGA775 socket E7230 chipset it appears - i think i saw another model or two that may have slightly different chipsets, but i can't find them now. anyway, from the disc

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 01:59:16PM -0700, mike wrote: > Please note the "I have a chance" line - I have some discounts that I > can apply against Intel 830D's which would take the overall cost down > to less than an Opteron machine - and I'd be getting dual-core for > that lower price as well. > >

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread mike
On 10/14/05, Lennart Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have a chance soon to switch out my servers, and going the Intel > > route I would be able to get a lot more bang for my buck. The website > > says that EM64T works fine with Debian-amd64, I just want to make sure > > there's no gotcha

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 11:58:56AM -0400, Karl Magdsick wrote: > Along the same lines, do the EMT64 chips still actually run slower in > 64-bit mode as compared to 32-bit mode? If the xeon em64t users on this list in the past are anything to go by, the answer is yes. Not usually much but a bit.

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 12:06:24AM -0700, mike wrote: > I recently (re-)subscribed to the mailing list, I have a couple > specific questions, and can't seem to find any good data about it, and > would like to tap people who probably have some real-world experience > with it. > > First off, I am a

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread Karl Magdsick
Along the same lines, do the EMT64 chips still actually run slower in 64-bit mode as compared to 32-bit mode? -Karl

Re: Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread mikepolniak
On 00:06 Fri 14 Oct , mike wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently (re-)subscribed to the mailing list, I have a couple > specific questions, and can't seem to find any good data about it, and > would like to tap people who probably have some real-world experience > with it. > > First off, I am a use

Intel EM64T vs. Opteron

2005-10-14 Thread mike
Hi all, I recently (re-)subscribed to the mailing list, I have a couple specific questions, and can't seem to find any good data about it, and would like to tap people who probably have some real-world experience with it. First off, I am a user of Debian-amd64 right now - and I love it. I run it