Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:15:41PM -0200, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > Thierry, i might be looking for trouble, then! i just didnt go with > the netinst because i could not connect, thus installation simply > could not happen... and Len, yes!, i think the RC1 is based on a > kernel without support fo

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 01:55:47PM -0200, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > hi all again. i'm just posting here to keep you informed what's been > since the last messages. the saga is still in its very begin, but > seems to succed in a short future. > > so, got a couple of majour problems trying the RC1

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
Thierry, i might be looking for trouble, then! i just didnt go with the netinst because i could not connect, thus installation simply could not happen... and Len, yes!, i think the RC1 is based on a kernel without support for this controller, because the disk recognition was smooth with the daily

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 30 January 2007 20:50, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > Len, sure it is better to know in depth every version, model no, > specificites of the hardware one owns, but hey, this is all about > necessity. if one needs this level of detail, as i am facing the need > now that i want to go linux, an

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
Len, sure it is better to know in depth every version, model no, specificites of the hardware one owns, but hey, this is all about necessity. if one needs this level of detail, as i am facing the need now that i want to go linux, and maximize performance, i will pay attention to it. but, and that

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 04:52:48PM -0200, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > Len, the pppoe module actually do exist in the package. it recognizes > the network adapter and proceed with authentication, but doesnt > connect. it's ok to give the full cd a try. didnt do this yet because > i am away from the c

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Colin Baker
Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: is there a command that rescues all hardware specs or do i have to gather it myself through manual ways (with 'manual' i mean unscrewing the hd to check info on the label...) thanks rodrigo These should tell you about your CPU, memory, and PCI (and onboard, AGP, etc) d

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
Len, the pppoe module actually do exist in the package. it recognizes the network adapter and proceed with authentication, but doesnt connect. it's ok to give the full cd a try. didnt do this yet because i am away from the comp i'm trying to install etch. but the SATA chipset is a piece of info i

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 01:55:47PM -0200, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > hi all again. i'm just posting here to keep you informed what's been > since the last messages. the saga is still in its very begin, but > seems to succed in a short future. > > so, got a couple of majour problems trying the RC1

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-30 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
hi all again. i'm just posting here to keep you informed what's been since the last messages. the saga is still in its very begin, but seems to succed in a short future. so, got a couple of majour problems trying the RC1 (nov 2006) build, esp no SATA disk recognition and no pppoe connection, thus

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 09:31:32AM -0600, Jaime Ochoa Malag?n wrote: > Testing have a small protection against bugs: sid... > > I strongly suggest, if you don't know what are you doing, go with etch > while you don't need something in "Lenny" because just once Etch has > become stable sid will be

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-28 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
Testing have a small protection against bugs: sid... I strongly suggest, if you don't know what are you doing, go with etch while you don't need something in "Lenny" because just once Etch has become stable sid will be break certainly. Cheers On 1/28/07, Chris Bannister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-28 Thread hendrik
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 07:21:56PM -0500, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > 4.I don't know what you mean. There are different 64-bit > archetectures so there's different ports. For 32-bit you would use i386 > and for 64-bit you would use amd64. The other 64-bit architecture that often confuses

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 03:00:59PM -0600, Colin Baker wrote: > In between these is etch/testing. I used to run sid/unstable on my > desktop PCs, but I've recently switched to testing, since it is a nice > compromise. I get fairly recent software, but without all of the broken > package issues

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-27 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:02:43AM -0200, Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > hi all, i would like to go linux, have heard that debian is a good > compilation, and want to give it a try. my system is a amd athlon 64 > 3500 currently running windows and with an empty partition for linux. > i have a few quest

Re: Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-27 Thread Scott Edwards
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > U¿ytkownik Rodrigo Alexandre > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisa³: > >this thing about running windows at the same time: > is it a real > >advantage, both systems will run at full speed and > without the danger > >of crash? i mean, how safe and useful is that? > > Hmm...

Re: Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-27 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Rodrigo Alexandre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >this thing about running windows at the same time: is it a real >advantage, both systems will run at full speed and without the danger >of crash? i mean, how safe and useful is that? Hmm... using a boot loader let's you choose which system

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Colin Baker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does your 32bit firefox come from debian's repos or form mozilla.org? And do I need those ia32libs to run it? I'm using one from a 3rd-party repository right now, for ease of administration: deb http://getswiftfox.com/builds/debian unstable non-free Though, the b

Re: Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Colin Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >32-bit firefox binaries work fine in debian amd64, which is nice because >you can use any of the 32-bit-only plugins with these. I have a 32-bit >firefox running on my amd64 systems without a chroot, and flash and >mplayer-plugin work perfect

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Friday 26 January 2007 22:00, Colin Baker wrote: > Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: > > so the debian version i should try is this "sid" one, right? you say > > that debian is easier to customize (as opposed to ball and chain), but > > i didnt understand why then the stable version is frozen, i mean, wh

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Colin Baker
Rodrigo Alexandre wrote: so the debian version i should try is this "sid" one, right? you say that debian is easier to customize (as opposed to ball and chain), but i didnt understand why then the stable version is frozen, i mean, why then cant i install the newest codecs in the stable (and "froz

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Colin Baker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so here is some clarification;) When I wrote about an official programs I meant binaries released by their official vendors. Eg. Official OpenOffice is the one that you can download form OpenOffice.org site. There are no 64bit precompiled versions available on the w

Re: Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >(Tomek, >After finishing this mail it occurs to me that you can easily cause confusion >throwing the word 'official' upon some different things without explanation. >I believe a newbie would need some clarification, but i'm not going to make >my rep

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Valentina Messeri
Quoting Rodrigo Alexandre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: olá rodrigo, i'm running debian amd64 sid and very happy to do that, but have to say you'll lost a considerable amount of time to configure itbeeing brasilian you'd better join estudiolivre.org list, which is a linux-group dedicated to multimedia

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
dam and micha, really nice to count on your individual experience, that's what i like most in this linux environment, that people do support each other and this way things get solved in a much more solid ground. it's been some time now i want to go linux, have tried some distros (ubuntu, ubuntu 64

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Micha
(Tomek, After finishing this mail it occurs to me that you can easily cause confusion throwing the word 'official' upon some different things without explanation. I believe a newbie would need some clarification, but i'm not going to make my reply even longer) On first glance, Debian doesn't s

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
Dmitrii, good to know suse 10.2 is being used for such applications with ease. i will definitely give it a try. will post here after succeding. thanks! rodrigo On 1/26/07, Dmitrii Varvashenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 2007/1/26, Rodrigo Alexandre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > thank you all for the ime

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Rodrigo Alexandre
again rodrigo On 1/26/07, Dmitrii Varvashenia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I received mail for you by mistake. -- Forwarded message -- From: José Guilherme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 26.01.2007 15:02 Subject: Re: newby trying to go debian To: Dmitrii Varvashenia <[

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread tomek . fizyk
Użytkownik Rodrigo Alexandre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napisał: >hi all, i would like to go linux, have heard that debian is a good >compilation, and want to give it a try. my system is a amd athlon 64 >3500 currently running windows and with an empty partition for linux. >i have a few questions one migh

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread Dmitrii Varvashenia
2007/1/26, Rodrigo Alexandre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2. is there a specific distribution better than debian for those interested in image processing (raster and vector) and video authoring? My friend use for same tasks suse linux and ms windows (both 64bit). He try Debian, but he has many troubles

Re: newby trying to go debian

2007-01-26 Thread HubertB
Hi! 1. It can run 32bit apps, but you need to work for it (google for chroot). If you plan to use non-debian-included applications (e. g. VMware, Skype) it might be better to use a 32 bit version of debian. 2. I don't know exactly, but since you mentioned that you are a newbee you sould try ubunt