Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Isaac
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Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Robert Goley
Partition magic really isn't worth it anymore. It rarely works with modern large disks. I agree. A similar open source solution that works better is GParted.  They have a bootable iso that gives you the same type of functionality. 

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 11:43:02AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debian folks, > > I an running Lenny on an AMD64 box. I have 8GB of RAM on the > machine in anticipation of putting Windows 7 on the machine. I know > many Debian folks don't bother with Windows but I need it for cert

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread id id
" trust grub to boot Windows that trust Windows to boot anything that is not Windows. -- I don't get no respect. Eduardo M KALINOWSKI " ( The crux of the matter -- trust ) Is debian-lenny open source? Windoze obfuscated? Best to have two separate boxes interconnected by ether-net.

Re: dumb question about dual booting debian and Windows 7 on separate drives.....

2010-12-08 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
There's nothing amd64 specific in this question, debian-user would have been better. On Qua, 08 Dez 2010, Michael Fothergill wrote: I bought an extra SATA drive and hooked it up so now I have two one with Debian on it. My plan is to install Windows on the new drive.. If you installed Wi

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:38:12AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Interesting - Pulse audio seems to be being pushed as a new "sound server" > > There is this from wikipedia http://www.javasonics.com/support/check_play.html > > I'm not understanding the whole of the sound picture in the Linux world -

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 12/07/2010 10:40 AM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:43:42AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash works fine -

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Ron Johnson
On 12/07/2010 12:43 AM, Karl Schmidt wrote: [snip] Here is a java sound test - can anyone get this to work via iceweasel/squeeze on amd64? Where is the Java sound test? -- Seek truth from facts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Sound from a java applet running in iceweasel

2010-12-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 12:43:42AM -0600, Karl Schmidt wrote: > Not sure how to fix this one. The possible source of the problem is > iceweasel, alsa, java, amd64.. > > I can't find much other than other people saying it didn't work. Flash > works fine - I understand it talks directly to alsa.

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Isaac
On 11/29/10, Tomasz Nitecki wrote: > On 29/11/10 17:00, dage...@free.fr wrote: >> Anyway, just a remark, I have noticed that just after the installation >> of Debian AMD 64, there's no xorg.conf file at all, but X runs well. >> Any hints to make me understand ? > > It 'just works' due to its abili

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread Tomasz Nitecki
On 29/11/10 17:00, dage...@free.fr wrote: > Anyway, just a remark, I have noticed that just after the installation > of Debian AMD 64, there's no xorg.conf file at all, but X runs well. > Any hints to make me understand ? It 'just works' due to its ability to auto-configure itself. Take a look at

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread dagecko
> > Note that in the NVIDIA world there *is* a way to do this, so you > might want to Google for something like: > Linux fglrx 64-bit kernel 32-bit userland Thank you. I installed AMD 64 debian, and the installation of the driver just went fine ! Sorry to have bother you all with such a s

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 11/29/2010 04:06 AM, dage...@free.fr wrote: - "brian m. carlson" a écrit : Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? Right. In fact ,it is i386 with 64-bit kernel. What it sounds like to me is that you're using a 64-bit kernel on i386, which is supported by D

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-29 Thread dagecko
- "brian m. carlson" a écrit : > > Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? Right. In fact ,it is i386 with 64-bit kernel. > What it sounds like to me is that you're using a 64-bit kernel on > i386, > which is supported by Debian (and in general, a good idea). Howe

Re: ATI proprietary drivers installation failures

2010-11-28 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:14:43PM +0100, dage...@free.fr wrote: > Here is the problem: > > I can't install official ATI drivers for my graphic card when using 64 bits > kernels (tested on lenny and squeeze). Is your installation i386 with a 64-bit kernel, or is it amd64? > At the end, X program

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 07:04:53PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: >>> On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > F

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Florian Weimer, le Tue 16 Nov 2010 19:49:57 +0100, a écrit : > * Roland McGrath: > > >> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or > >> unnecessary. > > > > It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the > > initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I cal

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Florian Weimer
* Roland McGrath: >> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. > > It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the > initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it. So it's more like static linking. 8-) IMHO, the current d

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Matthias Klose
On 16.11.2010 10:42, Roger Leigh wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-ne

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
Steve Langasek, le Tue 16 Nov 2010 09:14:40 -0800, a écrit : > I don't argue that this makes --as-needed *correct* as a default, but I > think it's clear how using --as-needed may benefit a distribution in terms > of reducing churn when library dependencies change. We agree on the second part, but

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 09:49:08AM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote: > > >> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or > > >> unnecessary. > > >> Check out http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/asneeded.xml > > >> --as-neede

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Kurt Roeckx [101114 14:08]: > People have been claiming that constructors or init section are a > possible problem. I have yet to see an example where it breaks. The following example is a bit constructed, but shows a silent change of run-time behaviour if --as-needed is passed: $ cat > ertes

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roland McGrath
> This change is one I can agree with on technical grounds, though it > will cause a great deal of pain in the short term. Have we got any > estimates on exactly how much breakage will result before the change > gets made? Fedora already made the change a full release cycles ago, and Fedora packa

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09AM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> >>> For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs >>> (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-e

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 01:14:09 +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: > >On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > >>For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs > >>(turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-e

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-16 Thread Julien Cristau
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 21:29:07 -0500, Matt Turner wrote: > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : > >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > >> > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to so

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : >> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: >> > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? >> > >> > The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Samuel Thibault
Matt Turner, le Mon 15 Nov 2010 19:51:10 -0500, a écrit : > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? > > > > The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result > > of using pkg-config (and various other -conf

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
> I can't see why you think --as-needed is fundamentally wrong or unnecessary. It is fundamentally wrong because -lfoo means I demand that the initializers of libfoo.so run, whether or not I called anything in it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matt Turner
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Roger Leigh wrote: > What's the actual problem --as-needed is trying to solve? > > The answer is mainly unwanted libraries being linked in as a result > of using pkg-config (and various other -config variants), though there > are other, lesser, culprits.  The pkg-c

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 16.11.2010 01:24, Roger Leigh wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the u

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 14.11.2010 13:19, Julien Cristau wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOL

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*.

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Roland McGrath
> On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote: > yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-needed. That is a pretty nutty choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: htt

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:02:57PM +0100, Matthias Klose wrote: > maybe, and fix it in N - ~100 packages? Or fix the ~100 packages? > The point of injection is for discussion. I would prefer having > this set in dpkg-buildflags, and then disabled by these ~100 > packages. Note that this is proba

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 14.11.2010 16:06, Roger Leigh wrote: While I understand the rationale for --no-copy-dt-needed-entries for preventing encapsulation violations via indirect linking, I don't agree with the use of --as-needed *at all*. If a library has been explicitly linked in, it shouldn't be removed. This is

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-15 Thread Matthias Klose
On 15.11.2010 07:16, Roland McGrath wrote: airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too? mattst88: yes The naming of the options makes people easily confused. --no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes. yes, OpenSuse is using --as-needed, but not --no-add-ne

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 -> halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-15 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 04:58:52PM -0300, Felipe Valverde wrote: > Definitively the culprit is the new driver. I tried the testing and the > > unstable driver but they just do not work properly. They will freeze my > > laptop as soon as I try to connect to a wireless network. My fix is just a > > b

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roland McGrath
> airlied_, does Fedora use --as-needed by default? Fedora 14 too? > mattst88: yes The naming of the options makes people easily confused. --no-add-needed is the only option Fedora's gcc passes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Adam Goode wrote: > On 11/14/2010 12:42 PM, Matt Turner wrote: >> Please ignore me if I've misunderstood the situation, firstly. >> >> Both Fedora and Gentoo are using --as-needed by default now. And from >> what I've read (google: site:blog.flameeyes.eu as-needed)

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Adam Goode
On 11/14/2010 12:42 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > Please ignore me if I've misunderstood the situation, firstly. > > Both Fedora and Gentoo are using --as-needed by default now. And from > what I've read (google: site:blog.flameeyes.eu as-needed) --as-needed > is certainly useful and prevents lots of u

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Matt Turner
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51:49PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: >> > > For wheezy I'm planning to change the link

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:19:08PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs > > (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The > > rationale is summarized in > >

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 01:51:49PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning > > > on --as-needed and -

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 04:19:10PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning > > on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is > > summarized in http:

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-14 Thread Julien Cristau
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 15:43:57 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs > (turning on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The > rationale is summarized in > http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like to know > about i

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 -> halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-13 Thread Felipe Valverde
Hi Definitively the culprit is the new driver. I tried the testing and the > unstable driver but they just do not work properly. They will freeze my > laptop as soon as I try to connect to a wireless network. My fix is just a > band-aid and it can't be considered a good fix, but it works. > In or

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 -> halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-11 Thread Andres Migliazzo
Felipe, I have my Intel 5100 wireless card working again. This is what I did: 1. Purged the firmware-iwlwifi 0.27 from my system. 2. Installed this one instead: firmware-iwlwi 0.24~bpo50+1 Binary firmware for Intel Wireless 3945, 496 I've downloaded this .deb from the lenny backports: http://

Re: Intel Wifi Link 5100 -> halt system on Squeeze

2010-11-10 Thread Andres Migliazzo
I was WRONG. As soon as I rebooted and attempted to connect to my wireless network the system hangs. 1. I've purged firmware-iwlwifi firmware-linux-nonfree from the system. 2. Rebooted. 3. With the system online I've installed firmware-iwlwifi. 4. Unplugged the network cable and enables the wireles

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Mittwoch, 10. November 2010 schrieb Jaime Ochoa Malagón: > some packages has been grouped... > > diff in diffutils > mktemp in coreutils > > both in squeeze > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > > On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Allums
On 11/10/2010 6:58 AM, Mark Allums wrote: On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start "orphaner" there are two packages, which are marked as "essentials". These packages are "diff" and "mktemp", but they are below "oldlibs". Can they safe

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
some packages has been grouped... diff in diffutils mktemp in coreutils both in squeeze On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:58 AM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start "orphaner" there are two >> package

Re: mktemp and diff orphaned?

2010-11-10 Thread Mark Allums
On 11/9/2010 1:33 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi all, I am running debian-amd64/testing. When I start "orphaner" there are two packages, which are marked as "essentials". These packages are "diff" and "mktemp", but they are below "oldlibs". Can they safely to be removed, as they are meanwhile old

Re: DSO linking changes for wheezy

2010-11-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 03:43:57PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > For wheezy I'm planning to change the linking behaviour for DSOs (turning > on --as-needed and --no-copy-dt-needed-entries. The rationale is > summarized in http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking. I would like > to know about

Re: ADA Help

2010-10-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 10/31/2010 01:22 PM, Jenei Gábor wrote: Hello! Could anyone help me?I'm just trying to make an ADA program,but the excercise seems to be to store variant records in an Array.Is it Possible?Actually the memebers of my record depend on the discriminant(if discriminant is true then I have one mo

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 01:41:50PM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote: > Shuckydarns, hendrik. I'm gettin' spooked about this whole thing now. If you don't have to keep your machine running 24/24 even during power failures. If you can afford to have things down for a few hours if things go wrong, t

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-26 Thread Whit Hansell
Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 02:42:54PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: Hi Whit, last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-ima

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-26 Thread Whit Hansell
Thanks Brian. Info much appreciated. Whit brian m. carlson wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which fai

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-26 Thread Whit Hansell
Darn, Thanks sigi for the info. Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to reply. Hot hung up on some things. Will see what others have said about things and am glad you gave me the heads up. That type of thing is just what I was/am worried about. Not my idea of a good time. 8^) Thanks

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Karl Schmidt
On 10/25/2010 09:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. And was y

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Karl Schmidt
I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - then the kernel - then distupgrade. It worked - but - there is always some cruft that accumulates - so if you have time, you might want to bkup your old

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:10:09PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > I did the upgrade from lenny to squeeze without any problems - if you > read the wiki, you are supposed to upgrade apt dpkg and aptitude first - > then the kernel - then distupgrade. And was your system up and usable during pretty w

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 02:42:54PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: > > Hi Whit, > > > > last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an > > (for me) unresolvable loop: > > The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and ud

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: > Hi Whit, > > last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an > (for me) unresolvable loop: > The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - > which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-im

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:39:52PM +0200, sigi wrote: > last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an > (for me) unresolvable loop: > The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - > which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-image needs the

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-25 Thread sigi
Hi Whit, last time I tried to dist-upgrade to squeeze, I got stuck in an (for me) unresolvable loop: The system wanted to upgrade the kernel-image and udev in one run - which failed. apt-get always complained, that the kernel-image needs the new udev-package to upgrade - and udev itself neede

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-24 Thread Whit Hansell
Hey Sam, Thanks for the reply. It's helpful. Gracias Whit Sam Varghese wrote: On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:35:31PM -0400 Whit Hansell said: Just thinking that since Squeeze is coming up to be the new stable and have been running Lenny since March of 2009, I was wondering about how diffic

Re: Changing from stable to testing.....

2010-10-23 Thread Sam Varghese
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:35:31PM -0400 Whit Hansell said: > Just thinking that since Squeeze is coming up to be the new stable > and have been running Lenny since March of 2009, I was wondering > about how difficult it would be to change from Lenny(stable) to > Squeeze(testing) now. I have bee

Re: cannot mount LVM logical volume in /etc/fstab

2010-10-17 Thread Seb
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:52:26 -0500, Seb wrote: > Hi, On Debian sid system, I successfully created a LVM logical volume > in a volume group in a USB external hard drive using > system-config-lvm. The logical volume was designated as ext3, created > a mount point for it under /media, and it was al

Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

2010-10-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Alasdair writes: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:17 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: >> While gcc compiling a complex program (AmberTools of Amber suite, a >> molecular dynamics package) on amd64 lenny (in the past it compiled >> smoothly on this system): >> >> ./configure_at gcc >> make -f Makefile_at

Re: Lotus notes on amd64?

2010-10-03 Thread Ron Johnson
On 09/20/2010 10:49 AM, d...@nc.rr.com wrote: [snip] That said, I found this while looking for links to info on how to do the above and decided to stop looking, and recommend a total boycott. After years of experience. your choice. http://homepage.mac.com/bradster/iarchitect/lotus.htm Notes

Re: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext

2010-10-02 Thread Alasdair
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 16:17 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: > While gcc compiling a complex program (AmberTools of Amber suite, a > molecular dynamics package) on amd64 lenny (in the past it compiled > smoothly on this system): > > ./configure_at gcc > make -f Makefile_at > > After a lot of compil

Re: Lotus notes on amd64?

2010-09-20 Thread dam
> "Christopher" == Christopher Judd writes: Christopher> On Thursday 16 September 2010 13:02:11 Fabricio Christopher> Cannini wrote: >> On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: > On >> Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: > > Hi, >> > > >> > >

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-18 Thread Jason Young
Not really. Proprietary software tends to do odd things. Adobe, for example, messes with the master boot record of the hard drive it's installed on. The good thing about open source software is that it's much harder to hide this sort of thing. On Sat, 18 Sep 2010, Robert Isaac wrote: I'm

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-18 Thread Christopher Browne
On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Robert Isaac wrote: >>> >>> I'm afraid it's not possible, as Lotus Notes is a non-free >>> email/collaboration suite from IBM: >>> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus >> >> If the Source Code is not available then that is surely, in and of itself, a >> good enoug

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-18 Thread Robert Isaac
>> >> I'm afraid it's not possible, as Lotus Notes is a non-free >> email/collaboration suite from IBM: >> http://www-01.ibm.com/software/lotus > > If the Source Code is not available then that is surely, in and of itself, a > good enough reason to run it inside a chroot -- that way, it can't get a

Re: Lotus notes on amd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 16 September 2010 13:02:11 Fabricio Cannini wrote: > On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: > > On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with > > > > > > the file ibm_l

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Fabricio Cannini wrote: > On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: > > In general, it is best not to try to run anything that was not compiled > > by either yourself or your own distro's package maintainers. Try > > grabbing the "other distro" (i.e., Sourc

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Christopher Judd
On Thursday 16 September 2010 11:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: > On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with > > > > the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal). > > [stuff delete

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Fabricio Cannini
On Thursday 16 September 2010 12:30:15 A J Stiles wrote: > On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with > > > > the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal). > > [stuff deleted

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
ia32-apt-get :-P jajajja On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Christopher Judd wrote: > Hi, > >        I have to install lotus notes here.  Our IT guys have provided me with > the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal).   > Following > instructions from http://www.debian-ad

Re: Lotus notes oamd64?

2010-09-16 Thread A J Stiles
On Thursday 16 Sep 2010, Christopher Judd wrote: > Hi, > > I have to install lotus notes here. Our IT guys have provided me with > the file ibm_lotus_notes-8.5.i586.deb (linux support here is minimal). [stuff deleted] > Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? I'd prefer not to have to

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
> On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:02:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > >> [I'm not on this mailing list - it'd be kindness if you CCd any replies] >> Hi, >> >> What's the status of Intel Mac support in Squeeze? I have managed to >> install lenny on an intel mac pro, but it was a bit of a faff (and >> invol

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-13 Thread Brian Morris
On 9/13/10, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 05:42:51PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote: >> On 9/12/10, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > Would Debian's coming non-Linux platform (being BSD instead) be at all >> > relevant ehre? >> >> I believe that is just a port of NetBSD packages, to be used

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-13 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 05:42:51PM -0700, Brian Morris wrote: > On 9/12/10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Would Debian's coming non-Linux platform (being BSD instead) be at all > > relevant ehre? > > I believe that is just a port of NetBSD packages, to be used with the > Debian Linux kernel and drivers

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-13 Thread Brian Morris
On 9/12/10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:02:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > >> [I'm not on this mailing list - it'd be kindness if you CCd any replies] >> Hi, >> >> What's the status of Intel Mac support in Squeeze? I had it going for the 1st half of the year on my Macbook (2ghz

Re: Having trouble establishing IP masquerading

2010-09-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:10:30PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I've been IP masquerading for years. But now my Pentium front-end machine > has bit the dust, and I'm setting up my server to do the masquerading > itself. > > It's and AMD65 running Debian lenny: > > hend...@lovesong:~$ uname -a >

Re: Intel mac support for Squeeze?

2010-09-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:02:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote: > [I'm not on this mailing list - it'd be kindness if you CCd any replies] > Hi, > > What's the status of Intel Mac support in Squeeze? I have managed to > install lenny on an intel mac pro, but it was a bit of a faff (and > involved downl

Re: Having trouble establishing IP masquerading

2010-09-11 Thread David Coulson
You need to have rules in the FORWARD chain (of the filter table) - The examples in the URL you referenced: $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $EXTIF -o $INTIF -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A FORWARD -i $INTIF -o $EXTIF -j ACCEPT I'm guessing $EXTIF would be eth0, and $INTIF

Re: SDIO wifi support?

2010-09-07 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 05:39:33PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: >> I was thinking of getting a card like this for my camera: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/Eye-Fi-Class-Wireless-Memory-EYE-FI-8PC/dp/B002UT42UI >> >> Having a hard time figuring o

Re: SDIO wifi support?

2010-09-07 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Sep 06, 2010 at 05:39:33PM -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > I was thinking of getting a card like this for my camera: > > http://www.amazon.com/Eye-Fi-Class-Wireless-Memory-EYE-FI-8PC/dp/B002UT42UI > > Having a hard time figuring out if there is support for these in squeeze? > > Has anyone been

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-05 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Sep 03, 2010 at 11:17:25AM +0200, reg exes wrote: > I don't know if it affects other architectures... this is happening on a > amd64. > Now that you mention it... I don't have the problem on my laptop... > it's 32-bit (i386). I was trying to point out that this question (like most on this

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-03 Thread reg exes
I don't know if it affects other architectures... this is happening on a amd64. Now that you mention it... I don't have the problem on my laptop... it's 32-bit (i386). On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:14:46AM +0200, reg exes wrote: >> That's the p

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-02 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Sep 02, 2010 at 09:14:46AM +0200, reg exes wrote: > That's the problem... Is it amd64-specific? Hamish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-02 Thread reg exes
Hi, That's the problem... xscreensaver & --> this works and xscreensaver is then running.It's being run as my user, i.e. not root. xscreensaver-command -lock --> this does not work. I always receive the error below... host1:myuser:~> xscreensaver & [1] 32231 host1:myuser:~> ps -ef | grep xscree

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-01 Thread Jaime Ochoa Malagón
xscreensaver & xscreensaver-command -lock should work or is not running xscreensaver after the fisrt step? ps aux |grep xscreensaver don't use root!!! On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 3:57 AM, reg exes wrote: > I'm not using KDE... I'm using Enlightenment as my window manager. > Doesn't seem to matter a

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-09-01 Thread reg exes
I'm not using KDE... I'm using Enlightenment as my window manager. Doesn't seem to matter anway. I cannot get xscreensaver to do what it should? If I run xscreensaver manually and then try lock the screen, I always get host1:myuser:~> xscreensaver-command -lock xscreensaver-command: no screensav

Re: xscreensaver cannot lock: no screensaver running on display

2010-08-31 Thread Whit Hansell
If your running KDE, go the K(Start button, lower left of screen and at the bottom along with "switch user" and "log out", you will find "lock session". reg exes wrote: Hello everyone, I upgraded my system from Etch to Lenny a looong time ago... just noticed something odd. When trying to lock

Re: Archive access

2010-08-26 Thread Michael
> Sid is always unstable - never released - the backronym is "Still In > Development" > Don't run sid unless you are prepared to deal with a high pace of change, > a high churn rate in terms of packages and a degree of breakage. If you learn how to use a package manager like synaptics or aptitu

Re: Archive access

2010-08-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:42:56PM -0700, Willy Gommel wrote: > Since your freeze began. I've been having a problem in getting any Testing > information to download from any of your mirrors. It is most annoying, as I > cannot upgrade anything at this time. > > My question is: Is this regarded as

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