Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-28 Thread James Brown
C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 04:34:05 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 02:45:31 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 04:57:01AM +0400, James Brown wrote: I received an answer from the technical support of the Acer, they informed me that in all laptops of Acer didn't turn on the vt-support independently of CPU supporting. They write that becouse that it is impossible to turn on it in

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-27 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:06:42AM +0400, James Brown wrote: And hear http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27253 they wrote that T5500 supportes VT Are they, intel team, idiots, if they write one in one place, and another - in another place?! It just means

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-25 Thread C M Reinehr
On Fri 24 July 2009 04:34:05 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 02:45:31 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-25 Thread James Brown
C M Reinehr wrote: OK, James, please take a deep breath and start over. Are you saying that the Ctl-Alt-whatever key sequences do not work in your virtual Windows environment or that they do not work in your Debian host system? If you are having problems within the virtual Windows

VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (becouse there is no VMWare Player in the official repositories of the Debian). Which of the packege do I need - rpm or bundle? How do install it on Debian?

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Lennart Sorensenlsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64  the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (becouse there is no VMWare Player in the official repositories

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (becouse there is no VMWare Player in the official repositories

Re: kvm (was: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop)

2009-07-24 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Sex, 24 Jul 2009, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Fortunately we now have kvm (on machines with virtualization hardware support) which is in my opinion much better than vmware, free, open source, and maintained and part of stock kernels. I have no need for vmware anymore. Does kvm support multiple

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:45:18PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Could the kvm boot the Windows from physical disk? (I want to make the virtual machine boot my old Windows from my laptop becouse some programes from my working space don't want to run under Linux). Earlier I tried the Virtualbox but

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:47:07PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Bjørn Mork wrote: James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: When I tried install the kvm, the system tell me: Your system does not have the CPU extensions required to use KVM. Not doing anything. failed! from the kvm package description: quote KVM requires your system to

Re: kvm (was: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop)

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:51:27PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Does kvm support multiple snapshots in a tree-like structure (not only linear as VirtualBox) and switching arbitrarily between them, like VMware Workstation? That's one feature that prevents me from moving to another

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: When I tried install the kvm, the system tell me: Your system does not have the CPU extensions required to use KVM. Not doing anything. failed! from the kvm package description: quote KVM requires your system to support hardware virtualization,

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:21:56PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Bjørn Mork wrote: James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: When I tried install the kvm, the system tell me: Your system does not have the CPU extensions required to use KVM. Not doing anything. failed! from the

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Bjørn Mork wrote: You'll probably have to check the Intel or AMD web sites to find out if your CPU is supposed to have such support. Bjørn I am afraid that my chipset don't maintain this function: $ dmesg | grep Chipset [6.694009] agpgart: Detected an Intel 945GM Chipset.

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread C M Reinehr
On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from http://www.vmware.com/download/player/download.html (becouse

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:35:55PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I am afraid that my chipset don't maintain this function: $ dmesg | grep Chipset [6.694009] agpgart: Detected an Intel 945GM Chipset. http://ark.intel.com/chipset.aspx?familyID=22816 It is a CPU thing, not a chipset thing. So

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:47:07PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Another option is qemu using kqemu. Not quite as fast as kvm, but still very good and the same feature set. kqemu is probably about the speed of vmware. Is it possible install on qemu Windows? It

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: Bjørn Mork wrote: But do check your BIOS setup if you think your CPU should support hardware virtualization. Most have some option to disable it, and it may be disabled by default. What is the name of item I need to enable in BIOS if it exist in

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, James Brownjbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:47:07PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Another option is qemu using kqemu.  Not quite as fast as kvm, but still very good and the same feature set.  kqemu is probably about

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:32:22PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Depends. It should be an option related to the CPU, and it will often include the word virtualization. But I've also seen Vanderpool Technology used without any further explanations... What do you think 'VT' means? :) -- Len

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) writes: Yes it probably could (it supports raw disk files so I see no reason it could not). Of course you do have to prepare the windows system with the right device drivers for running on a new system, although that usually isn't too hard.

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:48:22PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Is it possible install on qemu Windows? It seems to me that only Linux, am I wrong? Does it maintain booting from raw disks and using USB? kvm and qemu both support pretty much the same features (kvm uses qemu as it's user

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Bjørn Mork
lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Lennart Sorensen) writes: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 08:32:22PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: Depends. It should be an option related to the CPU, and it will often include the word virtualization. But I've also seen Vanderpool Technology used without any further

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Victor Padro wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, James Brownjbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:47:07PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Another option is qemu using kqemu. Not quite as fast as kvm, but still very good and the same feature

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz processor : 1 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 15 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz stepping : 6 cpu MHz :

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Bjørn Morkbj...@mork.no wrote: James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz That one is supposed to support VT according to http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27253 Yes, but as Lennart stated not all the

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:48:22PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Is it possible install on qemu Windows? It seems to me that only Linux, am I wrong? Does it maintain booting from raw disks and using USB? kvm and qemu both support pretty much the same features

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:32 PM, James Brownjbrownfi...@gmail.com wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:48:22PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Is it possible install on qemu Windows? It seems to me that only Linux, am I wrong? Does it maintain booting from raw disks and using

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player 2.5.2 from

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread C M Reinehr
On Fri 24 July 2009 02:45:31 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my laptop under Debian Lenny AMD 64 the VM Ware Player

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 10:48:22PM +0400, James Brown wrote: Is it possible install on qemu Windows? It seems to me that only Linux, am I wrong? Does it maintain booting from raw disks and using USB? kvm and qemu both support pretty much the same features

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:06:42AM +0400, James Brown wrote: And hear http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27253 they wrote that T5500 supportes VT Are they, intel team, idiots, if they write one in one place, and another - in another place?! It just means that their confusion plan is

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:32:22PM +0400, James Brown wrote: The Acer compony's officers are frauds! There is an information about CPU T7200 or T7400 or T7600 in the manual of my laptop. Why did they install T5500?! It's a build option. My wife's tablet was available with all those models

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:14 PM, Lennart Sorensenlsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:06:42AM +0400, James Brown wrote: And hear http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27253 they wrote that T5500 supportes VT Are they, intel team, idiots, if they write one in one place,

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:09:32PM +0200, Bjørn Mork wrote: James Brown jbrownfi...@gmail.com writes: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz That one is supposed to support VT according to http://ark.intel.com/Product.aspx?id=27253 Well intel's pages do seem to indicate in a

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:30:54PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: Yes, but as Lennart stated not all the T5500 have the extension, in this case James Laptop is one of the ones who doesn't have them. http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517 I almost wonder wether the OEM T5500s do

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:21:29PM +0400, James Brown wrote: [ 0.148009] CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5500 @ 1.66GHz stepping 06 So your system has a T5500 stepping 6. I cannot find in the above output of dmesg the type of my CPU. There is an information that it can be Intel Core 2 Duo

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:20:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: not entirely: http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517 It seems most people have determined that the info intel lists for the T5500 is wrong. Perhaps that would be something worth discussing with intel if you bought a

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Lennart Sorensenlsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 02:30:54PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: Yes, but as Lennart stated not all the T5500 have the extension, in this case James Laptop is one of the ones who doesn't have them.

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Victor Padro
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Lennart Sorensenlsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:20:51PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: not entirely: http://ark.intel.com/ProductCollection.aspx?series=23517 It seems most people have determined that the info intel lists for the

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 03:36:22PM -0500, Victor Padro wrote: Most of the times budget laptops doesn't provide virtualization capabilities, so it's better in this case the OP stays with vmware server, or something like that. Or kqemu, which happens to use the same interface and fileformats as

Re: VM Ware Player under Debian Lenny AMD64 on laptop

2009-07-24 Thread James Brown
C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 02:45:31 pm James Brown wrote: C M Reinehr wrote: On Fri 24 July 2009 12:45:18 pm James Brown wrote: Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:10:49PM +0400, James Brown wrote: I intend to install on my