Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-29 Thread Helge Hafting
Lennart Sorensen wrote: Well it certainly works with 2.6.24 which is the kernel currently in unstable. Until 2.6.25 enters unstable I won't have a clue if the nvidia driver works with it, nor will I particularly care. :) The nvidia-breaking change was before 2.6.24, so there is hope. I have

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-28 Thread Helge Hafting
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 10:23:47AM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: That is one big problem with nvidia - my laptop needs a more recent kernel than that in order to have sound and wifi. So I use 2.6.25 with a wifi patch now, and with luck that patch will go into 2.6.26 so

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:27:51PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: There is a nvidia driver in unstable now, that works with 2.6.25? Interesting - I can try it when I get time then. I run mostly testing with some unstable stuff now and then. Well it certainly works with 2.6.24 which is the

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-23 Thread Helge Hafting
Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:54:43AM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Thanks, and sorry for being dense, but when you say 'the 196 driver' (or 1xx driver, as you say in your howto), what should I be getting. I seem to be unable to find any debian packages with that number

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-11 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Thanks, I got it from sid. m-a compiled it all right, but X didn't want to find the module. I had to leave for work, I will dig deeper when I get home... Thanks all, especially Lennart. I have nvidia now working. Don't know why it

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:52:09AM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote: $ apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-source: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.0.8776-4 Version table: 169.12-1 0 50 http://ftp2.de.debian.org sid/non-free Packages 1.0.8776-4 0

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 07:56:13PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Other than games, for what is 3d used? Does it take 3d to render a movie full-screen using the hardware, or is that a 2d function? Effects like those in compiz and beryl do use openGL, so it is used for things other than games.

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 07:54:43AM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Thanks, and sorry for being dense, but when you say 'the 196 driver' (or 1xx driver, as you say in your howto), what should I be getting. I seem to be unable to find any debian packages with that number in it. You have a nice

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 10:04:45AM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Ah, that was the problem. apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-kernel-source: Installed: 1.0.8776-4 Candidate: 1.0.8776-4 Version table: *** 1.0.8776-4 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status I had misunderstood

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 09:49:51AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: non-free packages often lag severely in Lenny, often right up until a few weeks before release. The build system does not promote non-free packages automatically from unstable to testing as far as I am aware. Thanks, I got it

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 04:08:15PM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Thanks, I got it from sid. m-a compiled it all right, but X didn't want to find the module. I had to leave for work, I will dig deeper when I get home... Remember to install the nvidia-glx package from Sid as well. The version on

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-10 Thread Robert Isaac
Other than games, for what is 3d used? Does it take 3d to render a movie full-screen using the hardware, or is that a 2d function? CAD programs, 3d modelling programs, a few renderers, etc. It's not just eye candy that needs a hardware accelerated display. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Heikki Levanto
SUPPORTED HARDWARE GeForce 8XXX G80, G84, G86, G92 Just a data point: I am running LInux 2.6.18-5-amd64 on a ATI-based motherboard and a AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+, with VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1) The nv driver

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:17:02PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: I haven't seen an Intel video card, just MBs with integrated Intel video. Is there an Intel video card, if so what is it called? There isn't (at this time). That has been in the past (they were crap) and there supposedly will

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Robert Isaac
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:35PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. nv Which is 2d only, the nouveau driver is the one aiming for

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:08:44AM +, A J Stiles wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free drivers? Already mentioned in this thread are the

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:35PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: just go apt-get install module-assistant m-a prepare nvidia m-a a-i nvidia apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx viola! just need to configure X somewhat. Doesn't work for me. Compilation fails. I find several warnings

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 08:38:54PM +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: Doesn't work for me. Compilation fails. I find several warnings in the file nvidia-kernel-source.buildlog.2.6.24-1-amd64.1207765467 for example: make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-1-amd64' echo

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:00:02AM -0400, Robert Isaac wrote: On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Douglas A. Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:35PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it.

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-09 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 03:53:55PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: Well the 169 driver in unstable works fine with 2.6.24. The one in stable works fine with 2.6.18 (but I don't believe it supports an 8xxx cards). My howto on installing it on Debian is here:

Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread A J Stiles
I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free drivers? -- AJS delta echo bravo six four at earthshod dot co dot uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread El Amigo De La Playa
Yes, I have a Nvidia GeForce 7300 that worked completely out of the box in my Debian Testing amd64 box. I do however have contribnon-free enabled in my sources.list... 2008/4/8, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Dimitris Lampridis
Hi, AMD/ATI has recently started releasing information regarding their Radeon graphics cards. A new open-source project, called RadeonHD, will take advantage of this information, in order to develop a fully functional, fully open,device driver for new ATI graphics cards, with excellent

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. is there any reason you cant use with nvidia blob? it works well in linux and in debian just go apt-get install module-assistant m-a prepare nvidia m-a a-i nvidia apt-get install nvidia-settings nvidia-glx

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Thadeu Penna
Pretty happy with on-board intel here. Works out-of-the-box with Lenny, with compiz,etc.. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82946GZ/GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Dean Hamstead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Andre Vanha
After trying NVidia, ATI and on-board Intel recently, I'd agree with Thadeu that Intel is the easiest to get running with purely open-source drivers. I run an NVidia 8600GT now for dual-monitor support, but I wasn't able to get the output on the analog VGA port right (refresh rate problems on

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread A J Stiles
On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. is there any reason you cant use with nvidia blob? Yes: it's a binary blob, i.e. it doesn't include any Source Code. That is a fairly compelling reason not to run

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:08:44AM +, A J Stiles wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free drivers? Supported to what extent? I think onboard

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Jo Shields
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 15:49 +, A J Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. is there any reason you cant use with nvidia blob? Yes: it's a binary blob, i.e. it doesn't include any

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 04:50:39PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: SUPPORTED HARDWARE The nv driver supports PCI, PCI-Express and AGP video cards based on the following NVIDIA chips: RIVA 128 NV3 RIVA TNT NV4 RIVA TNT2

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Jo Shields
On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:56 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:08:44AM +, A J Stiles wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Robert Isaac
On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 7:08 AM, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free drivers? Intel, as previously stated, is the

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Mark Allums
Jo Shields wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 15:49 +, A J Stiles wrote: On Tuesday 08 Apr 2008, Dean Hamstead wrote: Please define most. (That's the driver I'm using on my machine at work, which is fitted with an older nVidia card.) I want to be certain that whatever I buy will work

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 07:13:38AM -0400, El Amigo De La Playa wrote: 2008/4/8, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.) Does anyone know of a graphics card which is definitely supported by Free

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 04:59:16PM +0100, Jo Shields wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 11:56 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:08:44AM +, A J Stiles wrote: I'm thinking of buying a new 64-bit machine to use as my home desktop. (It will probably run Sid.)

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 11:04:35PM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote: the reverse engineered nvidia driver is working now, cant recall the name of it. nv is there any reason you cant use with nvidia blob? it works well in linux and in debian just go apt-get install module-assistant m-a

Re: Graphics cards with Free drivers

2008-04-08 Thread Dean Hamstead
just go apt-get install module-assistant m-a prepare nvidia m-a a-i nvidia On etch, there's no reason for module-assistant since the nvidia driver is pre-packaged in non-free. that could be the case, i run lenny on my desktops/laptop so *shrug* Dean -- http://fragfest.com.au -- To

graphics cards

2005-06-21 Thread A J Stiles
Does anyone have a list of graphics cards known to work with purely Open Source drivers in 64 bit mode? I do *not* mean NVidia's drivers which include a closed-source binary portion {though there is the open source nv driver -- is that any good?} I mean an actual, really-open-source driver

Re: graphics cards

2005-06-21 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 11:23:03AM +0100, A J Stiles wrote: Does anyone have a list of graphics cards known to work with purely Open Source drivers in 64 bit mode? I do *not* mean NVidia's drivers which include a closed-source binary portion {though there is the open source nv driver

Re: graphics cards

2005-06-21 Thread Thomas Steffen
On 6/21/05, A J Stiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a list of graphics cards known to work with purely Open Source drivers in 64 bit mode? 64bit does not seem to be a big issues. If there are minor bugs, they are quickly fixed. My Radeon 9600 works fine with the free driver

Re: graphics cards

2005-06-21 Thread Alexander Rapp
A J Stiles wrote: Does anyone have a list of graphics cards known to work with purely Open Source drivers in 64 bit mode? I do *not* mean NVidia's drivers which include a closed-source binary portion {though there is the open source nv driver -- is that any good?} I mean an actual, really