Bug#368225: please don't!
Hello, I'd say that making a LAMP package that includes a lot of PHP stuff and not much else is sort of hijacking a good name for a bad purpose. If anything, packages like lamp-python (best language) lamp-perl (original definition of LAMP) lamp-php (in order of decreasing preference) should be created, but I'd also argue that replacing MySQL with PostgreSQL is a Good Thing (TM) in many cases. In any case, I think that also probably libapache-mod-chroot should be included and configured in any standard Apache install, and that the BTS probably isn't the best place to discuss such policy questions... Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#368225: please don't!
Toni Mueller wrote: Hello, I'd say that making a LAMP package that includes a lot of PHP stuff and not much else is sort of hijacking a good name for a bad purpose. If anything, packages like lamp-python (best language) lamp-perl (original definition of LAMP) lamp-php (in order of decreasing preference) should be created, but I'd also argue that replacing MySQL with PostgreSQL is a Good Thing (TM) in many cases. In any case, I think that also probably libapache-mod-chroot should be included and configured in any standard Apache install, and that the BTS probably isn't the best place to discuss such policy questions... What about creating a source called lamp that will create all these little tiny lamp-* packages (arch: all) that can be updated as you like indipendently from apache and leave apache on its own? Fabio -- I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#368225: please don't!
I don't see there's any benefit in doing this _at all_, to be honest. It'll just turn into a whine fest when people don't get exactly what they want installed, and it then just becomes an unmaintainable mess. -Thom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bug#368225: please don't!
Thom May wrote: I don't see there's any benefit in doing this _at all_, to be honest. It'll just turn into a whine fest when people don't get exactly what they want installed, and it then just becomes an unmaintainable mess. -Thom That's exactly why i don't want it in apache, and somebody can do it externally and take the blame ;) Fabio -- I'm going to make him an offer he can't refuse. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#157734: is waht crihs siad ture?
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Bug#368225: please don't!
Hello Fabio, On Mon, 19.06.2006 at 11:19:22 +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Toni Mueller wrote: I'd say that making a LAMP package that includes a lot of PHP stuff and not much else is sort of hijacking a good name for a bad purpose. lamp-python (best language) lamp-perl (original definition of LAMP) lamp-php In any case, I think that also probably libapache-mod-chroot should be included and configured in any standard Apache install, and that the BTS probably isn't the best place to discuss such policy questions... What about creating a source called lamp that will create all these little tiny lamp-* packages (arch: all) that can be updated as you like indipendently from apache and leave apache on its own? in case I wasn't clear, I'd like to repeat that I don't really see added value in creating those lamp-* packages at all, and consider these to be very similar to a task package, if anything. The reason is that you don't need to do much in order to pull in most required pieces, and some of the proposed choices are imho quite arbitrary. IOW, they'd imho be much more trouble to maintain, than to a user's benefit. It's also of very debatable merit to ease setting up a (likely) broken web server because it would just mean that Joe Sixpack needs to issue only one instead of five to ten commands to get all stuff included which would mostly *only* benefit Joe Sixpack and not someone who has half a clue already. If you feel you need to create (one or more) lamp* packages nonetheless, it would be imho a very bad idea to hijack the name and hardwire it to some PHP (and other inferior) stuff, instead of creating sort of a namespace for all flavours of LAMP that are commonly encountered. But this really belongs on -devel and not into the BTS anyway, Cc'ing. Best, --Toni++ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bug#368225: marked as done (Wish: Add LAMP metapackage)
Your message dated Mon, 19 Jun 2006 22:41:47 +0200 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#368225: Wish: Add LAMP metapackage has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) ---BeginMessage--- Package: apache Severity: wishlist Would it be possible to add a metapackage so that it is easier for a user/web developer to install a stadar LAMP setup? I'm talking about something similar to apachefriends.org's XAMPP. Packages included there: Apache 2.2.0, MySQL 5.0.20, PHP 5.1.2 4.4.2 PEAR + SQLite 2.8.17/3.2.8 + multibyte (mbstring) support, Perl 5.8.7, ProFTPD 1.2.10, phpMyAdmin 2.8.0.3, OpenSSL 0.9.8a, GD 2.0.1, Freetype2 2.1.7, libjpeg 6b, libpng 1.2.7, gdbm 1.8.0, zlib 1.2.3, expat 1.2, Sablotron 1.0, libxml 2.4.26, Ming 0.2a, Webalizer 2.01, pdf class 009e, ncurses 5.8, mod_perl 2.0.1, FreeTDS 0.63, gettext 0.11.5, IMAP C-Client 2004e, OpenLDAP (client) 2.3.11, mcrypt 2.5.7, mhash 0.8.18, eAccelerator 0.9.4, cURL 7.13.1, libxslt 1.1.8, phpSQLiteAdmin 0.2, libapreq 2.06-dev, FPDF 1.53, XAMPP Control Panel 0.6 More Info: http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- * Leonidas Arvanitis | Would it be possible to add a metapackage so that it is easier for a | user/web developer to install a stadar LAMP setup? I'm talking about | something similar to apachefriends.org's XAMPP. Short answer: no. Long answer: This is not something the apache team wants to do. If somebody wants to make a package which sets up a LAMP (whether the P is for perl, python, php or some other language), they're obviously free to do so. If so, an RFP (request for packaging) is probably what you want, not a wishlist bug report against apache. -- Tollef Fog Heen,''`. UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are : :' : `. `' `- ---End Message---
