genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread NG
Hello I pln to use a arm platform for personnal testing and use There is two products i plan to buy open rd from globalscale and genesi i've seen that open rd seems good and used on this forum. But what about genesi ? the form factor is sleek, but the processor is perhaps outdated (A8). Thanks

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hello Nicolas, 2010/2/8 NG nico...@mesopotamie.org: i've seen that open rd seems good and used on this forum. But what about genesi ? the form factor is sleek, but the processor is perhaps outdated (A8). OpenRD (armv5 instruction set) is supported in debian-installer, thanks to tbm. I would

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Karsten König
Am Montag, 8. Februar 2010 12:57:44 schrieb NG: Hello I pln to use a arm platform for personnal testing and use There is two products i plan to buy open rd from globalscale and genesi i've seen that open rd seems good and used on this forum. But what about genesi ? the form factor is

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* NG nico...@mesopotamie.org [2010-02-08 12:57]: There is two products i plan to buy open rd from globalscale and genesi Debian itself will work on both machines. Debian installer has basic support for the OpenRD but there's no support for the Genesi. If you want VGA, you'll have to build

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Montag, den 08.02.2010, 13:25 +0100 schrieb Karsten König: (does anything use this at all already?) Ubuntu 9.10 is for ARMv7 (if I am not mistaken) 9.04 is v5 9.10 is v6 + vfp 10.04 will be v7 + THUMB2 + NEON (for selected apps) ciao oli signature.asc Description: Dies ist

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Guy
On 2/8/10, Karsten König re...@gmx.net wrote: So Debian will run on both as it is built for the ARMv5 architecture ARMv4t (so it will still run on both) M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Bill Gatliff
Martin Guy wrote: On 2/8/10, Karsten König re...@gmx.net wrote: So Debian will run on both as it is built for the ARMv5 architecture ARMv4t (so it will still run on both) OT, but has anyone looked at what gains can be had by rebuilding packages with, say, A8 or other

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Karsten König
Am Montag, 8. Februar 2010 14:20:31 schrieb Martin Guy: On 2/8/10, Karsten König re...@gmx.net wrote: So Debian will run on both as it is built for the ARMv5 architecture ARMv4t (so it will still run on both) M Oh right I forgot, it still runs on the openmoko phone, which is ARMv4t

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Guy
On 2/8/10, Bill Gatliff b...@billgatliff.com wrote: OT, but has anyone looked at what gains can be had by rebuilding packages with, say, A8 or other optimizations for processors that support them? Well, it has a VFP FPU, so floating point apps will run N times faster, and GCC optimizes some

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Guy
On 2/8/10, Karsten König re...@gmx.net wrote: OT: Are there plans to raise this to ARMv5 or even higher after Squeeze? Or are the benefits not worth dropping the older devices? I hope not. armv4t is pretty widespread in single-board computers, while the v5 benefits are vanishingly small: one

CT-PC89E ARM S3C6410 netbook: status update Mon 8Feb10 14:00

2010-02-08 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
ok - adam's going back to visit the factory tomorrow, to collect the 20 netbooks. by unpacking them from the (2kg!) cardboard boxes and putting them in bubblewrap instead, he can just reach the 1kg target. he reckons he'll have them all packed by thursday, which means that most people will have

Re: CT-PC89E ARM S3C6410 netbook: status update Mon 8Feb10 14:00

2010-02-08 Thread Alejandro Mery
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 15:33, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@googlemail.com wrote: ok - adam's going back to visit the factory tomorrow, to collect the 20 netbooks.  by unpacking them from the (2kg!) cardboard boxes and putting them in bubblewrap instead, he can just reach the 1kg

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Hector Oron
Hi, 2010/2/8 Martin Guy martinw...@gmail.com: On 2/8/10, Bill Gatliff b...@billgatliff.com wrote: OT, but has anyone looked at what gains can be had by rebuilding  packages with, say, A8 or other optimizations for processors that  support them? Well, it has a VFP FPU, so floating point apps

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 02:46:00PM +0100, Karsten König wrote: Oh right I forgot, it still runs on the openmoko phone, which is ARMv4t =) OT: Are there plans to raise this to ARMv5 or even higher after Squeeze? Or are the benefits not worth dropping the older devices? Marvells Kirkwood beeing

Re: genesi and open rd

2010-02-08 Thread Paul Brook
On Monday 08 February 2010, Martin Guy wrote: On 2/8/10, Karsten König re...@gmx.net wrote: OT: Are there plans to raise this to ARMv5 or even higher after Squeeze? Or are the benefits not worth dropping the older devices? I hope not. armv4t is pretty widespread in single-board computers,

FPC does SIGILL in armv4t

2010-02-08 Thread Daniel Serpell
Hi, Current fp-compiler package (version 2.4.0-1 for armel) gives SIGILL on armv4t (arm920t), see: ~$ head -1 /proc/cpuinfo Processor : ARM920T rev 0 (v4l) ~$ gdb /usr/bin/fpc GNU gdb (GDB) 7.0.1-debian Copyright (C) 2009 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or

Re: FPC does SIGILL in armv4t

2010-02-08 Thread Martin Guy
strd/ldrd were first introduced in armv5t Architecture v5TE and later processors provide LDRD and STRD instructions to load/store 64-bit data, e.g. to access 64-bit peripherals. These behave similarly to LDM/STM of two registers. ldrd just loads 64-bit data (ok, atomically) into two registers.