Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Vagrant Cascadian
On 2015-12-01, Ian Campbell wrote: > On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 16:10 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: >> > With respect to mainline kernel support, this page shows a pretty good >> > picture: >> > http://elinux.org/RPi_Upstreaming >> > >> > Many of the drivers are already upstreamed or queued for 4.4

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Ian Campbell wrote: So is there a chance it will be supported by "Stretch", or will it be whatever comes after that? If someone does the work there's no reason it couldn't make Stretch, the freeze isn't until the second half of next year. I guess the first step in "doing the work" would be te

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 09:20 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > Ian Campbell wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-11-30 at 14:03 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > >> W dniu 30.11.2015 o 13:52, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: > >>> I've been playing with Debian for the RPi2 (not the original RPi) > from > >>> http://sjo

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2015-12-01 at 16:10 +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: > > With respect to mainline kernel support, this page shows a pretty good > > picture: > > http://elinux.org/RPi_Upstreaming > > > > Many of the drivers are already upstreamed or queued for 4.4. > > So is there a chance it will be su

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Daniel Serpell wrote: It works fairly well, but does mean that it's not possible to install something like U-Boot or OpenFirmware to take control immediately after a reset, there's an inescapable lower-level loader. Note that currently it *is* possible to use u-boot in the R-Pi, see: http://

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 11:36 PM, Daniel Serpell wrote: > Note that currently it *is* possible to use u-boot in the R-Pi, see: > http://elinux.org/RPi_U-Boot That talks about running u-boot on ARM but Mark was talking about the first bootloader that runs; the one that runs on the VideoCore chip,

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Daniel Serpell
Hi, El Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 09:20:36AM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd escribio: > Ian Campbell wrote: > >On Mon, 2015-11-30 at 14:03 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > >>W dniu 30.11.2015 o 13:52, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: > >>>I've been playing with Debian for the RPi2 (not the original RPi) from > >>>h

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Ian Campbell wrote: On Mon, 2015-11-30 at 14:03 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: W dniu 30.11.2015 o 13:52, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: I've been playing with Debian for the RPi2 (not the original RPi) from http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ and find that it fairly readily

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: W dniu 30.11.2015 o 14:49, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: However it still relies on a mix of standard and non-standard repositories and packages Probably when r/pi2 will be supported by mainline kernel. Up to this moment you have to use "non-s

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Mark Morgan Lloyd
Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote: deb [trusted=yes] https://repositories.collabora.co.uk/debian/ jessie rpi2 You should not use trusted=yes, instead, if you trust that repository you should add their key to the apt keyring. Thanks Paul noted, but tha

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Ian Campbell
On Mon, 2015-11-30 at 14:03 +0100, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > W dniu 30.11.2015 o 13:52, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: > > I've been playing with Debian for the RPi2 (not the original RPi) from > > http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ and find > > that it fairly readily accepts s

Re: Mainstream Debian on Raspberry Pi 2

2015-12-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 30.11.2015 o 14:49, Mark Morgan Lloyd pisze: Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: However it still relies on a mix of standard and non-standard repositories and packages Probably when r/pi2 will be supported by mainline kernel. Up to this moment you have to use "non-standard repositories and pa