Re: arm build hardware

2013-06-11 Thread kqt4at5v
On Tue, 11 Jun 2013, peter green wrote: peter green wrote: However just as I was becoming reasonablly happy with the nitrogen6x's stability I happened to notice on twitter that wandboard,org have released a board with the same basic hardware for about twice the price. That should have said ab

Re: arm build hardware

2013-06-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 06:47:00PM +0100, peter green wrote: > peter green wrote: > >However just as I was becoming reasonablly happy with the > >nitrogen6x's stability I happened to notice on twitter that > >wandboard,org have released a board with the same basic hardware > >for about twice the pr

Re: arm build hardware

2013-06-11 Thread peter green
peter green wrote: However just as I was becoming reasonablly happy with the nitrogen6x's stability I happened to notice on twitter that wandboard,org have released a board with the same basic hardware for about twice the price. That should have said about half the price -- To UNSUBSC

Re: arm build hardware

2013-06-11 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 01:02:31AM +0100, peter green wrote: > Ok to fill in on some developments. > > I got a 2GB nitrogen6x and have been testing it. It crashed a couple > of times with the first kernel I was using (the one that was > included in an image I got from armhf) but I then upgraded th

Re: arm build hardware

2013-06-10 Thread peter green
peter green wrote: Tim Fletcher wrote: The cubox pro, 2gb of ram and esata. From here:http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/proddetail.php?prod=CuBoxPro Seems very weak on the CPU The other option is the mirabox which is only 1gb of ram but has real mini pcie slots. Available here: http://www.newit.co

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-26 Thread Riku Voipio
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:16:42PM +, peter green wrote: > After the bad stuff i'm reading about the arndaleboard (apparently > problems even at 1.4 GHz despite the advertised speed being 1.8 GHz) pandaboards were not particularry stable when people started using them. Likewise, using the ear

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-14 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 10:40 -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:26:45AM +0100, Sander wrote: > > Issues with usb-to-sata don't affect usb-to-serial, do they? > > > > FWIW, I use a handful of > > http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?model_no=UC232A and they've > > ne

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:26:45AM +0100, Sander wrote: > Issues with usb-to-sata don't affect usb-to-serial, do they? > > FWIW, I use a handful of > http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?model_no=UC232A and they've > never failed me, with arm and x86 as both source and destination. I have

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-14 Thread Sander
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote (ao): > On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Sander wrote: > > I'm not sure I understand what the problem is. Why can't you just > > use an usb-to-serial cable? > > reliability of the usb-to-serial cable. i.e. many people have found > them to be utterly, utterly s

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-13 Thread peter green
Tim Fletcher wrote: The cubox pro, 2gb of ram and esata. From here:http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/proddetail.php?prod=CuBoxPro Seems very weak on the CPU The other option is the mirabox which is only 1gb of ram but has real mini pcie slots. Available here: http://www.newit.co.uk/shop/proddetail.

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-13 Thread Dario
Il 13/03/2013 02:03, Luke Kennèeth Casson Leighton ha scritto: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451 corr, that's f*g tiny! absolutely awesome. wow. 10 watts power input

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:02 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451 > > corr, that's f*g tiny! absolutely awesome. wow. 10 watts power > input. that's a hell of a lot in such a small space. hilarious

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-12 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:11 PM, David Pottage wrote: >> so, yeah - word of advice from experience: *DO NOT* get a system with >> 1gb of RAM for building of distro packages, if you want to have a life >> :) > > > OK then, what about ODROID-U2 ? > Quad Core Cortex A9 @ 1.7 GHz, 2Gb RAM, no SATA

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-12 Thread David Pottage
On 10/03/13 11:00, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:56 AM, David Pottage wrote: On 08/03/13 19:11, peter green wrote: I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate t

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Sander wrote: > peter green wrote (ao): >> So I think two arndaleboards in a 1U EATX case would be tight but >> doable. The biggest problem would likely be the serial console >> connector and it may be nessacery to use a custom cable for that >> either using an IDC

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread Sander
peter green wrote (ao): > Sander wrote: > >peter green wrote (ao): > >>So I think two arndaleboards in a 1U EATX case would be tight but > >>doable. The biggest problem would likely be the serial console > >>connector and it may be nessacery to use a custom cable for that > >>either using an IDC D

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread peter green
Sander wrote: peter green wrote (ao): So I think two arndaleboards in a 1U EATX case would be tight but doable. The biggest problem would likely be the serial console connector and it may be nessacery to use a custom cable for that either using an IDC D connector or using a conventional solde

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread Sander
Phil Endecott wrote (ao): > Steve McIntyre writes: > > The second issue is reliability - various people have reported > > instability when working their arndale machines hard for > > building. > > Can you say more, i.e. who has reported that, where? Yes, please :-) Haven't had issues with mine

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread Sander
Peter Bauer wrote (ao): > Is there anywhere a guide how to > install Debian on the Arndale board ? Follow the instructions at https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/Arndale/Setup/EnterpriseUbuntuServer to make the arndale boot from sdhc. Use multistrap on a different debian system to put an initial debia

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-11 Thread Sander
peter green wrote (ao): > So I think two arndaleboards in a 1U EATX case would be tight but > doable. The biggest problem would likely be the serial console > connector and it may be nessacery to use a custom cable for that > either using an IDC D connector or using a conventional solder or > crimp

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread Peter Bauer
Is there anywhere a guide how to install Debian on the Arndale board ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1362923989.2485.12.camel@peter-laptop

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread Phil Endecott
Hi Steve, Steve McIntyre writes: > I'm looking at migrating the current Debian buildd machines across > from imx53 to arndale in the next few months > The second issue is reliability - various people have reported > instability when working their arndale machines hard for > building. Can you sa

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread peter green
Peter Bauer wrote: For a build cluster the arndale board looks way better than just laptops. 1. How much of them will you need ? I'm not really sure, for raspbian wheezy we use eight imx53 quickstart boards. Now an arndaleboard should be more than twice as fast as an imx53 even in non-par

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:56 AM, David Pottage wrote: > On 08/03/13 19:11, peter green wrote: > > I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build > cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate the > cluster out of mike's basement. I had been loo

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 07:11:16PM +, peter green wrote: >I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new >build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to >migrate the cluster out of mike's basement. I had been looking egarly >at the openbrix zero but i

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-10 Thread Peter Bauer
On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 20:33 +, peter green wrote: > David Pottage wrote: > > On 09/03/13 11:02, Oliver Grawert wrote: > >> get a few chromebooks, 2G of ram, fast CPU and debian/ubuntu > >> supported ... admittedly no SATA but USB 3.0 which should be speedy > >> enough ... for networking get an

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread peter green
David Pottage wrote: On 09/03/13 11:02, Oliver Grawert wrote: get a few chromebooks, 2G of ram, fast CPU and debian/ubuntu supported ... admittedly no SATA but USB 3.0 which should be speedy enough ... for networking get an USB 2.0 NIC (if you need wired) and enjoy that they come with a builtin

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread peter green
David Pottage wrote: Have you come accross the cubieboard . It only has 1Gb of RAM, and a single core Cortex A8 CPU@1GHz, but it is a quarter of the price of the nitrogen6x so it might be more cost effective to more of them, and buy only one or two larger boards to buil

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread David Pottage
On 08/03/13 19:11, peter green wrote: I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate the cluster out of mike's basement. I had been looking egarly at the openbrix zero but it looks like that proje

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread Tim Small
On 09/03/13 11:02, Oliver Grawert wrote: > get a few chromebooks ... buy up a few with broken screens from ebay etc. ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Samsung-Chromebook-with-BROKEN-SCREEN-/271166903320 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Sa, 2013-03-09 at 12:03 +, David Pottage wrote: > Apparently the USB3 socket is not actually useful. anandtech.com > Benchmarked it when they reviewed the Chromebook, and only got > 12.7MB/s (while running ChromeOS), which is barely more than the > maximum speed for USB2. i know that

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread David Pottage
On 09/03/13 11:02, Oliver Grawert wrote: get a few chromebooks, 2G of ram, fast CPU and debian/ubuntu supported ... admittedly no SATA but USB 3.0 which should be speedy enough ... for networking get an USB 2.0 NIC (if you need wired) and enjoy that they come with a builtin UPS Apparently the U

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, On Fr, 2013-03-08 at 19:11 +, peter green wrote: > Required: > Reasonablly priced. I am hoping I will be able to get our build hardware > sponsored but I still don't want to take the piss by specing hardware > with poor bang per buck. > Reasonable cost of entry, I'm not going to spec out

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-09 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dom wrote: > I really admire the work you've done on Raspbian. why do you support domination and control, patents and the sale of proprietary software all in the name of and under the guise of "education" [1]? if you want to admire someone please consider admir

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-08 Thread peter green
Dom wrote: On 08/03/13 19:11, peter green wrote: I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate the cluster out of mike's basement. Does this mean you are intending to track Jessie on the Raspbia

Re: arm build hardware

2013-03-08 Thread Dom
On 08/03/13 19:11, peter green wrote: I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate the cluster out of mike's basement. Does this mean you are intending to track Jessie on the Raspbian repos whe

arm build hardware

2013-03-08 Thread peter green
I run a debian derivative called raspbian and i'm looking into a new build cluster both to give more power for the jessie campaign and to migrate the cluster out of mike's basement. I had been looking egarly at the openbrix zero but it looks like that project has been abandoned :(. I've thought