Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-09-10 Thread Laurent GUERBY
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 00:40 +0900, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: > | ada? > > According to Martin Guy, there has been some progress with Ada > upstream: http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2009/08/msg00047.html For the record Ada on armv5tel-linux with the late

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-29 Thread Martin Guy
On 8/29/09, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Gordon Farquharson [2009-08-27 09:33]: > > Is anybody planning on implementing a scheme to migrate from arm > > installations to armel, e.g. http://wiki.debian.org/ArchTakeover? > Riku was working on this but I'm not sure it got anywhere. Another way to d

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Gordon Farquharson [2009-08-27 09:33]: > Is anybody planning on implementing a scheme to migrate from arm > installations to armel, e.g. http://wiki.debian.org/ArchTakeover? > Should this be a goal for squeeze because we are dropping arm? Riku was working on this but I'm not sure it got anywher

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-27 Thread Gordon Farquharson
Hi Martin On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:27, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: >> Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and >> what consequences are there for the rest of the project? >> >> How many "big" transitions will the upcoming chan

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle (fpc bootstrapping)

2009-08-27 Thread Martin Guy
On 8/26/09, peter green wrote: > From what i've heared gpc and fpc are far from compatible, I don't have > personal experiance with gpc though. Yes, that is the impression I got from various people whose programs only compile with fpc M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle (fpc bootstrapping)

2009-08-26 Thread peter green
Free Pascal compiler, a.k.a. fp-compiler. Exists in sid for arm, i386, amd64 and powerpc. Requires itself to compile itself and contains cpu-specific code generators: the arm one may or may not work unmodified on armel. Porting it means cross-compiling it Or using a binary from upstream as the

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle (fpc bootstrapping)

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Guy
I looked at this in spring 2008. >From http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiProblems#fpc --- fpc Free Pascal compiler, a.k.a. fp-compiler. Exists in sid for arm, i386, amd64 and powerpc. Requires itself to compile itself and contains cpu-specific code generators: the arm one may or may not w

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle (fpc bootstrapping)

2009-08-25 Thread Colin Tuckley
Quoting peter green : free pascal needs bootstrapping. I started trying with roughly the following recipie (note: these should be equivilent to what I did but I also went down a lot of dead ends, did things in a less sensible order etc) And when I asked about that error (on #fpc on freeno

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle (fpc bootstrapping)

2009-08-24 Thread peter green
>free pascal needs bootstrapping. I started trying with roughly the following recipie (note: these should be equivilent to what I did but I also went down a lot of dead ends, did things in a less sensible order etc) wget ftp://ftp.freepascal.org/pub/fpc/dist/arm-linux-2.2.2/fpc-2.2.2.arm-lin

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-23 Thread Matthias Klose
On 23.08.2009 17:40, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: How many "big" transitions will the upcoming changes cause? When should those happen? Can we do something to make them easier? I asked the Debian ARM list about the status and got the following responses. Co

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: > How many "big" transitions will the upcoming changes cause? When should those > happen? Can we do something to make them easier? I asked the Debian ARM list about the status and got the following responses. Colin Tuckley mentioned "a few things which are

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Rick Thomas [2009-08-19 12:18]: > Is there any plan to support the OpenRD Client machine? It's something I'm interested in but a) I'm currenly on holidays and b) I don't actually have the hardware. Maybe someone else is interested in working on adding support. In the meantime, I backported th

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-23 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Wookey [2009-08-19 13:07]: > I wonder if there is value in someone archiving lenny arm somewhere as > it may remain useful for a surprisingly long time to people who have > not migrated old hardware (after lenny oldstable has been removed > from the Debian archive). Does this already happen some

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:25 AM, Asier wrote: On Miércoles, 19 de Agosto de 2009 12:42:39 Riku Voipio escribió: I'd like to throw the ball back to our ARM port users - what are missing from Debian ARM port? Oh, I think that for NSLU2 owners >64 MB RAM support would be *great*, but that's a

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-22 Thread Asier
On Miércoles, 19 de Agosto de 2009 12:42:39 Riku Voipio escribió: > I'd like to throw the ball back to our ARM port users - what are missing > from Debian ARM port? Oh, I think that for NSLU2 owners >64 MB RAM support would be *great*, but that's a kernel development process :-( Bye -- Asier

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Riku Voipio [2009-08-19 13:42]: > As mentioned elsewhere on the thread, the biggest deal is getting > openmoko supprted. But I believe it's more of a kernel and d-i team > issue than ARM port issue. Personally, I think support for new devices/platforms is nice to have but not RC. -- Martin Mic

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 19, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Riku Voipio wrote: On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:27:32AM -1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and what consequences are there for the rest of the project? How m

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 02:34:35PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > Riku Voipio wrote: > > As mentioned elsewhere on the thread, the biggest deal is getting > > openmoko supprted. But I believe it's more of a kernel and d-i team > > issue than ARM port issue. > > Eh, support for new hardware is not imple

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Hector Oron
Hello, 2009/8/19 Riku Voipio : > I'd like to throw the ball back to our ARM port users - what are missing > from Debian ARM port? I am missing an optimized eglibc for small systems (for example, -Os), i have commented such thing to debian-eglibc people (aurel) and he asked for porters providing b

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Frans Pop
Wookey wrote: > I wonder if there is value in someone archiving lenny arm somewhere as > it may remain useful for a surprisingly long time to people who have > not migrated old hardware (after lenny oldstable has been removed > from the Debian archive). Does this already happen somewhere anyway? h

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Wookey
+++ Martin Michlmayr [2009-08-18 08:58 -1000]: > * Martin Guy [2009-08-18 19:38]: > > Just checking, as I'm outside the Debian ARM inner circle... > > > > Is the arm port being dropped in squeeze in favour of armel as planned? > > Yes. Presumably the old arm port will hang around in oldstable f

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Frans Pop
Riku Voipio wrote: > As mentioned elsewhere on the thread, the biggest deal is getting > openmoko supprted. But I believe it's more of a kernel and d-i team > issue than ARM port issue. Eh, support for new hardware is not implemented by the D-I team, but by porters. Of course, we welcome porters

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-19 Thread Riku Voipio
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:27:32AM -1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: > > Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and > > what consequences are there for the rest of the project? > > How many "big" transitions will the upcoming cha

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Martin Guy
On 8/18/09, Colin Tuckley wrote: > ada? An arm-linux-gnueabi native gnat-4,4 toolchain has appeared http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc/2009-08/msg00282.html Just needs someone to apply the patches to the debisn gcc-4.4 and bootstrap the thing Untested, but hey! M -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Hi On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 08:27:32AM -1000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: > > Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and > > what consequences are there for the rest of the project? > > > > How many "big" transitions will the upco

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Colin Tuckley
Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: >> Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and >> what consequences are there for the rest of the project? >> >> How many "big" transitions will the upcoming changes cause? When should those >> happen? Ca

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Martin Guy [2009-08-18 19:38]: > Just checking, as I'm outside the Debian ARM inner circle... > > Is the arm port being dropped in squeeze in favour of armel as planned? Yes. -- Martin Michlmayr http://www.cyrius.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Martin Guy
On 8/18/09, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > Do we have anything to report here? IMHO, any release date will work > fine for the ARM port since there are no major issues or transitions. Just checking, as I'm outside the Debian ARM inner circle... Is the arm port being dropped in squeeze in favour of

Re: arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-18 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Marc Brockschmidt [2009-08-16 14:40]: > Do you have any big changes planned? How much time would they take, and > what consequences are there for the rest of the project? > > How many "big" transitions will the upcoming changes cause? When should those > happen? Can we do something to make them

arm port plans for the squeeze cycle

2009-08-16 Thread Marc Brockschmidt
Heya, As announced on dda [RT1], we want to get an impression when releasing Squeeze is feasible. We have proposed a (quite ambitious) freeze in December 2009, and some developers have noted that their planned changes wouldn't be possible in this time frame. So, to find out when releasing would wo