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http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-as-default-jessie-desktop-2014-08-07-23-58
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* Gunnar Wolf wrote:
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> ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are
> CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD?
You may visit some poorer people in the world.
But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they just eat DVD-cake.
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Hi Christian,
On Donnerstag, 7. August 2014, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> No, sorry, that was only a bad joke, sorry for this and apologies to
> people who feel involved in D-I and felt bad about this bad joke.
thanks!
cheers,
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Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2014-08-08 05:34:29)
>> One of the reasons put forward for switching to Xfce was size on the
>> installation images; could you (and/or debian-cd) address this?
>>
>> Specifically: 1) Would you want the default CD/DVD image to use a
>> GNOME even if GNOME was unable to fit on
On jeu., 2014-08-07 at 23:57 +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote:
> Hi Debian,
About the decision itself, as Debian Xfce main maintainer, I honestly
don't really care. I don't think the default desktop matters that much
on Debian (while I guess it means a lot for Ubuntu, for example). I
actually think havi
On 08/08/14 00:29, Don Armstrong wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Aug 2014, Jordi Mallach wrote:
>> Well, it's roughly that time. :) So I'd like to plainly request GNOME
>> is reinstated as the default desktop environment for a number of
>> reasons.
>
> One of the reasons put forward for switching to Xfce was s
Am 07.08.2014 um 15:02 schrieb Alexander Zimmermann
:
>
> Am 06.08.2014 um 07:42 schrieb Michael Tokarev :
>
>> 05.08.2014 17:36, Zimmermann, Alexander wrote:
>>
>>> Despite the fact that I was unable to write a proper wrapper :-) - the
>>> kernel crashes -
>>> I know now that neither busyb
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 06:57:49PM +, Ivan Shmakov wrote:
>
> > This doesn't happen when framebuffer is used.
>
> Does that mean /dev/fb*, or rather the “kernel mode setting”
> (KMS) facility?
>
> The last time I’ve checked, – it wasn’t the case for KMS-enabled
> tex
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 12:41:09AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Jordi Mallach wrote:
> > Downstream health
> >
> > Upstream health
> >
> > Community
> >
> > Security
> >
> > Privacy
> >
> > Documentation
>
> I don't think these are very useful criteria, unless they lead to
> actual technical iss
On 08/08/2014 08:31, Michael Gilbert wrote:
Here's a really interesting view showing the downward trend starting
somewhere in April [0]. Note that the xfce trend was consistently
growing prior to and past January (when the default was changed), but
slowed a lot in April. At the same time, gnome
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Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]:
> > ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are
> > CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD?
>
> You may visit some poorer people in the world.
> But hey, if they want CD-bread, why don't they ju
On Friday 08 August 2014 15:15:17 vita...@yourcmc.ru wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm not a Debian developer, just a Debian user, and I want to say that I
> was happy to see XFCE being the default DE. Just because it's small,
> classic and neutral DE - which GNOME 3 definitely isn't. I think XFCE is
> a bette
Quoting Gunnar Wolf (2014-08-08 15:00:35)
> Jens Schüßler dijo [Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:37:33AM +0200]:
>>> ...And I'd like us to consider this point as well: How important are
>>> CD images nowadays? Who has a CD that cannot read a DVD?
>>
>> You may visit some poorer people in the world.
>> But
Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-08 15:51:13)
> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 03:26:20PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> I wonder if you still missed my point: Concern is not if computers
>> are capable of reading DVDs, but the *bandwith* burden of installing
>> and maintaining a larger desktop versus a
Jonas Smedegaard, le Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:11:58 +0200, a écrit :
> The following is on a wheezy chroot:
>
> root@bastian:/# aptitude install task-gnome-desktop
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> [...]
> Need to get 370 MB of archives. After unpacking 1099 MB will be used.
>
> root@ba
Gunnar Wolf writes ("Re: Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop"):
> And yes, many such computers are currently in use. And it would be a
> disservice not to provide CDs anymore. But that criteria should not be
> what guides our default for installation; a CD might not be able to
> have th
Quoting Samuel Thibault (2014-08-08 16:19:28)
> Jonas Smedegaard, le Fri 08 Aug 2014 16:11:58 +0200, a écrit :
>> The following is on a wheezy chroot:
>>
>> root@bastian:/# aptitude install task-gnome-desktop
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>> [...]
>> Need to get 370 MB of archiv
Package: netcfg
Version: 1.117
Severity: normal
Tags: d-i patch
Hi,
I cannot connect to any wifi network when entering a manual ESSID.
After entering the ESSID I always get the message:
Network chosen: (null). Proceeding to connect.
There seems to be a small error in wireless.c where the ES
James Cowgill (2014-08-08):
> Package: netcfg
> Version: 1.117
> Severity: normal
> Tags: d-i patch
>
> Hi,
>
> I cannot connect to any wifi network when entering a manual ESSID.
> After entering the ESSID I always get the message:
>
> Network chosen: (null). Proceeding to connect.
>
> The
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:14:07AM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
>
> Indeed. I somehow hoped that the attention brought on the initial switch
> would bring more developpers to the pkg-xfce team, but that failed. But
> I'm unsure how much people actually saw the switch, since it's only for
> the
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 12:47:14PM +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
>
> I would have thought it better to have a two level structure, where you are
> asked for instance if you want a database, and if you select it you are
> then asked which one (which can have a default for newbies). Similarly fo
Hi,
I don't know if it's wise to include that by default, but I remember
that today, MATE is quite accessible. Not perfet, yes, but slight,
customizable, and with Compiz which can run on it with all its features.
Gnome is heavy for some machines and much less customizable in colours,
objects
On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 03:29:26PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote:
> Specifically: 1) Would you want the default CD/DVD image to use a GNOME
> even if GNOME was unable to fit on a single image? 2) Would the GNOME
> team consider a less-complete DE for cases where image size is a
> restriction?
How ha
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