Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Hoy, Le mardi, 19 août 2014, 01.17:02 Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > The default is "Install" right now, which installs i386. The topic of > this bug report is switching to "Graphical install" by default, but > shouldn't we also promote amd64 by default while we're at it? This > would mean having "64

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Joey Hess (jo...@debian.org): > user-setup-apply is run in finish-install, so it can check if systemd is > installed or not. Interesting suggestion, yes. > > The only downsides I see: > > * Still need to add the groups in non-systemd installations, eg freebsd, > so this will be an po

Re: Debian Installer Jessie Beta 1 release

2014-08-18 Thread cstrobel
I installed Jessie using a Braille display. Debian-Jessie-DI-b1-amd64-net inst.iso I tried to get Orca going like this. Open a text console and login as root: aptitude instal gnome-orca orca -t Now it tells me no speech is available, so I do aptitude install espeak orca -t Still no speech availabl

Bug#758476: d-i manual: part about bootloader installation is missing in example preseed file 'preseed.txt'

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Control: tags -1 + pending Holger Wansing, le Sun 17 Aug 2014 22:59:19 +0200, a écrit : > The relevant paragraph was set to "arch=any-x86" with this commit: > http://anonscm.debian.org/viewvc/d-i/trunk/manual/en/appendix/preseed.xml?r1=65001&r2=65009 > > This attribute works for building the manu

Processed: Re: Bug#758476: d-i manual: part about bootloader installation is missing in example preseed file 'preseed.txt'

2014-08-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing control commands: > tags -1 + pending Bug #758476 [installation-guide] d-i manual: part about bootloader installation is missing in example preseed file 'preseed.txt' Added tag(s) pending. -- 758476: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758476 Debian Bug Tracking System C

Bug#757985: kfreebsd-* release status? (was: #757985: kfreebsd: d-i hangs)

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ I'm adding -release@ to the loop. I tried to refrain from mentioning my concerns in the Jessie Beta 1 announce, that's why I used a quite neutral wording, but let's be honest: kfreebsd-* is looking bad right now. ] Cyril Brulebois (2014-08-14): > Steven Chamberlain (2014-08-13): > > Some new i

Re: Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Tue 19 Aug 2014 01:17:02 +0200, a écrit : > => debian-accessibility@: if we go from i386 to amd64 by default, is >there anything that needs to be done on your side (doc update etc.) Normally, only the installer manual would need an update. I don't see the multi-arch boot me

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
[ Adding -accessibility@ and -cd@ to the loop. ] Steve McIntyre (2014-08-17): > On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 01:25:28PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > >Control: tag -1 confirmed > >> Another issue is that it requires much more memory, but that IMO is not a > >> blocker. It does require careful docum

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Cyril Brulebois (2014-08-18): > Now, hurd-i386 doesn't need caring about; kfreebsd-* architectures are > looking quite badly already, so I won't change anything on those right > now. I expect arm* people to tell us whether any change is needed for > those, but since I see no menu anyway… This left

Bug#758581: debian-installer: FTBFS on armhf/network-console: No library provides non-weak __aeabi_unwind_cpp_pr0

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Package: debian-installer Version: 20140802 Severity: serious Justification: FTBFS Hi, I've noticed what $Subject says through the daily builds. Looking at last successful build and today's (failing) one, a few things pops up: | -Unpacking libdebian-installer4-udeb (0.94) ... | +Unpacking libdebi

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Helloo, Holger Wansing, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:07:11 +0200, a écrit : > Basically I moved the chapter "Appendix D.6. The Graphical Installer" to > 5.1.8 (at the end of "Booting the installer on 32-bit PC"), leaving the > content unchanged. > > And I moved chapter "Appendix D.6.1. Using the graphic

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Samuel Thibault
Cyril Brulebois, le Mon 18 Aug 2014 23:36:03 +0200, a écrit : > > + > > + > > +The graphical installer requires significantly more memory to run than > > +the regular installer: &minimum-memory-gtk;. If insufficient memory is > > +available, it will automatically fall back to the regular > > +newt

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi Holger, and thanks for the proposed patch! Holger Wansing (2014-08-18): > Index: en/boot-installer/x86.xml > === > --- en/boot-installer/x86.xml (Revision 69238) > +++ en/boot-installer/x86.xml (Arbeitskopie) > @@ -401,7 +401,7 @

Bug#485586: debian-installer: Default to graphical install

2014-08-18 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Holger Wansing (2014-08-17): > > That would lead to more changes to the d-i manual IMO. > > Indeed, and since you were updating the manual already I thought it > might make sense to batch everything together. > > > At least: > > booting of the graphical installer i

Bug#751704: bug#18289: libparted ped_disk_clobber() overwrites firmware on some arm systems

2014-08-18 Thread Karsten Merker
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:59:49AM -0700, Brian C. Lane wrote: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 08:19:17AM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > > Hello, > > > > the following is a discussion from the Debian bugtracking system regarding > > Debian Bug#751704 > > (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?b

Bug#758411: marked as done (d-i manual: aptitude is no longer the recommended package management tool)

2014-08-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:28:06 +0200 with message-id <20140818212806.fd90fa36b2db83f2b9bc6...@mailbox.org> and subject line Re: Bug#758411: d-i manual: aptitude is no longer the recommended package management tool has caused the Debian Bug report #758411, regarding d-i manual: aptitu

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-18 Thread Zak
Hi Debian fellows, In fact I was on the point to upload various Debian 8 themes, unfortunately I had a huge computing problem and I lost my recent works (and so my Debian 8 theme propositions). So, I would like to know if it would be possible to wait until the 25th August before closing submissio

Re: Use dedicated partition for /boot/grub instead of /boot

2014-08-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Mon, 2014-08-18 at 00:40 -0500, Christopher Chavez wrote: > (Please let me know if there's a better venue for collecting feedback for this > idea, or additional ones I should solicit feedback from. I primarily use > Ubuntu, > but I assume this is as upstream as it gets.) > > Background: > > I

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Joey Hess
user-setup-apply is run in finish-install, so it can check if systemd is installed or not. The only downsides I see: * Still need to add the groups in non-systemd installations, eg freebsd, so this will be an point of difference that will need testing. * If a user chooses to remove systemd afte

Bug#758522: marked as done (installation-reports: Jessie beta1 on Dell T410 successful)

2014-08-18 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:15:53 +0200 with message-id <20140818171553.gi3...@mykerinos.kheops.frmug.org> and subject line Re: Bug#758522: installation-reports: Jessie beta1 on Dell T410 successful has caused the Debian Bug report #758522, regarding installation-reports: Jessie beta1 o

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve McIntyre (st...@einval.com): > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:24:50PM +0200, Floris wrote: > >>which is fine. > >> > >>But what if people decide to later not use logind/systemd? In what > >>does it hurt that the first created user is *also* added to the audio > >>group? > > > >When a

Bug#751704: bug#18289: libparted ped_disk_clobber() overwrites firmware on some arm systems

2014-08-18 Thread Brian C. Lane
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 08:19:17AM +0200, Karsten Merker wrote: > Hello, > > the following is a discussion from the Debian bugtracking system regarding > Debian Bug#751704 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751704). > It needs involvement from parted upstream, therefore I am forwar

Re: Use dedicated partition for /boot/grub instead of /boot

2014-08-18 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 12:40:13AM -0500, Christopher Chavez wrote: > > 2. Would it be a better idea to only have /boot/grub, instead of /boot, on a > separate partition? (I can confirm that it works both when installing and in > existing setups, i.e. grub-install and update-grub both work as expe

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:20:19PM +0200, Floris wrote: > > how about users who will login remotely? They also have full access to > all the audio devices, even when they don't able to hear the music, > because the speaker is on the other side of the world. Remote login might be from a computer t

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Floris
Op Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:52:34 +0200 schreef Steve McIntyre : On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:24:50PM +0200, Floris wrote: which is fine. But what if people decide to later not use logind/systemd? In what does it hurt that the first created user is *also* added to the audio group? When a user

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:22:16AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > That sure sounds likely. > > Perhaps there can be a README.multiseat in the systemd package that > explains what changes to make for such a setup. > > Just because systemd is default doesn't mean everything else should > stop wor

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 02:52:34PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > And if we ignore the multi-seat stuff (which is going to be used by a > *tiny* minority of users) there is no down-side. > > There are still likely going to be vastly more non-systemd users than > multi-seat users. That sure sounds

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 03:24:50PM +0200, Floris wrote: >>which is fine. >> >>But what if people decide to later not use logind/systemd? In what >>does it hurt that the first created user is *also* added to the audio >>group? > >When a user is added to the audio group. He will always see all so

Bug#758522: installation-reports: Jessie beta1 on Dell T410 successful

2014-08-18 Thread Simon Josefsson
Package: installation-reports Severity: normal Jessie beta1 on Dell PowerEdge T410 installation was successful. I had to manually copy bnx2 firmware files into /lib/firmware/ but that is to be expected at this stage, I suppose. -- Package-specific info: Boot method: CD Image version: http://cd

Re: Re: the audio group

2014-08-18 Thread Floris
which is fine. But what if people decide to later not use logind/systemd? In what does it hurt that the first created user is *also* added to the audio group? When a user is added to the audio group. He will always see all sound devices, even when logind tries to hide the device from the

Re: Artwork for jessie?

2014-08-18 Thread juliette . belin
Hi, I've upload the theme with the rescaled logo. If everything is OK, I can start the others artworks to complete the theme. Regards, Juliette - Mail original - De: "Cyril Brulebois" À: "Vincent Blut" Cc: "Adrien Aubourg" , "juliette belin" , "Ulrich" , onsemel...@riseup.net, "Debi