Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 14/10/22 a las 13:32, Paul Wise escribió: > On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 17:35 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > I'd prefer if we could make things work vs making things fail, > > however loudly. > > There seem to be a few ways to deal with this transition: > > 1. Document it in the release notes a

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Peter Pentchev
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 10:52:01AM +0200, Santiago Ruano Rincón wrote: > El 14/10/22 a las 13:32, Paul Wise escribió: > > On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 17:35 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > > > I'd prefer if we could make things work vs making things fail, > > > however loudly. > > > > There seem to b

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Marvin Renich
* Paul Wise [221014 01:35]: > On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 17:35 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > I'd prefer if we could make things work vs making things fail, > > however loudly. > > There seem to be a few ways to deal with this transition: > > 2. Add some code somewhere to automatically modify th

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Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Holger Levsen
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 01:32:41PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > 4. Keep all non-free-firmware packages in non-free too. This would be > backwards compatible, but may expose bugs in dak, debian-cd, apt and > other tools, so IIRC this has been vetoed by the archive and CD teams. > This also wouldn't res

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Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 01:32:41PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, 2022-10-13 at 17:35 +0200, Julien Cristau wrote: > > I'd prefer if we could make things work vs making things fail, > > however loudly. > > There seem to be a few ways to deal with this transition: (quotes reordered in Pauls pre

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
On 13/10/2022 at 10:13, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Pascal Hambourg (2022-10-13): What about firmware not available in Debian packages ? For example Prims54 wireless adapters using p54pci and p54usb drivers included in nic-wireless-modules-*-di need firmware unavailable in Debian packages. As far

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 19:50:11 +0200): > On 13/10/2022 at 10:13, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Pascal Hambourg (2022-10-13): > >> What about firmware not available in Debian packages ? For example > >> Prims54 wireless adapters using p54pci and p54usb drivers included > >> in

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
On 14/10/2022 at 20:54, Holger Wansing wrote: Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 19:50:11 +0200): On 13/10/2022 at 10:13, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Pascal Hambourg (2022-10-13): What about firmware not available in Debian packages ? For example Prims54 wireless adapters using p54pci and

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:31:31 +0200): > >>> As far as I understand it, they can be packaged once their > >>> redistributability is clarified? > > > > The only way for the installer to make use of such firmware is, if the > > user provides the firmware files on a removable

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Holger Wansing (2022-10-14): > Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 > > This is my point. If Debian does not provide all firmware for > > drivers which are included into the installer, then support for > > extra firmware medium is still useful and should not be removed. > > For this specific

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
On 14/10/2022 at 21:49, Holger Wansing wrote: Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:31:31 +0200): As far as I understand it, they can be packaged once their redistributability is clarified? The only way for the installer to make use of such firmware is, if the user provides the firmwar

Re: Firmware GR result - what happens next?

2022-10-14 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi, Pascal Hambourg wrote (Fri, 14 Oct 2022 21:57:37 +0200): > I did not mention the need for any special installer medium, only the > need for the installer to support extra firmware medium. > > > The usual installer also has the capability to make use of firmware > > provided via USB. > > I