Bug#379526: papersize is a4 for US install - should be letter

2006-07-23 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Sorry! I don't know which package creates the /etc/papersize file, so I'm submitting this as Package: installation-reports. During the install process, I selected the C locale early on. Later, when asked, I indicated I have a US-English keyboard. I also

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 22, 2006, at 3:01 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Fri, Jul 21, 2006 at 11:19:06PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 21 July 2006 22:09, Rick Thomas wrote: Putting the install CDrom into sources.list makes sense when you are installing from a full CD (or DVD) set, because there's a large

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 22, 2006, at 4:45 AM, Jens Seidel wrote: Hi Rick, On Sat, Jul 22, 2006 at 03:55:28AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Hmmm... That doesn't square with my recent experience. I've had aptitude hang on me a couple of times with messages saying (approximately -- from memory) can't read cdrom

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 21, 2006, at 4:37 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote: On Thu, Jul 20, 2006 at 09:13:51PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Some testing also noted that /etc/apt/sources.list includes the install CD as a source. I don't think this is a good idea -- it means that I have to hang onto the install CD

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Eddy Petrişor wrote: I call BS :-D ! Joke aside, this i from a system installed on Monday via a buisnesscard CD: ... sources.list snipped... I don't see any CD source. Maybe you were talking about netinst? ... Curiouser and curioser!, cried Alice.

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 21, 2006, at 12:50 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 21, 2006, at 10:50 AM, Eddy Petrişor wrote: I call BS :-D ! Joke aside, this i from a system installed on Monday via a buisnesscard CD: ... sources.list snipped... I don't see any CD source. Maybe you were talking about netinst

What is the difference between these two sets of CD images?

2006-07-20 Thread Rick Thomas
I'm curious... On the cdimage.d.o server there seem to be two parallel series of daily-build debian-installer cd images. They are clearly different, but why? Enjoy! Rick == Index of /cdimage/daily-builds/etch_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd Name

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-20 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Boot method: How did you boot the installer? CD? floppy? network? booted from daily businesscard CD Image version: Full URL to image you downloaded is best | Index of /cdimage/daily-builds/etch_d-i/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd | Name

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Base System Installation Checklist: [O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it Initial boot: [o] Detect network card:[o] Configure network: [o] Detect CD: [o] Load installer modules: [o

Bug#379067: couple of minor glitches in install of powerpc

2006-07-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 20, 2006, at 7:24 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: 2) However, strangely, the lspci command seems to be missing from the installed system. I *was* able to get it (as part of the pciutils package) from the mirror via aptitude. So it's not missing completely. Interestingly... I had

Bug#378593: D-I partition manager unable to see one of two Macintosh partition tables

2006-07-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Boot method: How did you boot the installer? CD? floppy? network? BootX and netinst CD (see below) I also tried using the businesscard CD witht he same results Image version: Full URL to image you downloaded is best

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 15, 2006, at 4:21 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, On Friday 14 July 2006 14:55, Rick Thomas wrote: This bug (258545) can be closed as wont fix. It's not reasonable (or possible -- I think) to do what I wanted and what your revised bug title asks for. We can detect hfs-partitions

Re: Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 15, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Rick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-15 01:48]: Yeah, ntpdate will do the job, and it's a good bit smaller than the full ntp-simple package. The alternative you were thinking of *may* be chrony. Maybe, although it seems that ntpdate

Re: Bug#352610: Please create a udeb for ntpdate

2006-07-14 Thread Rick Thomas
NTP is something I know a bit about. Yeah, ntpdate will do the job, and it's a good bit smaller than the full ntp-simple package. The alternative you were thinking of *may* be chrony. Both implement enough of the network time protocol (NTP) to do what you want. However, keep in mind that

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:46 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I downgraded the bug report on the kernel, but then I realized you might not be using the kernel I thought. Did you install 2.6.15 or 2.6.16? 2.6.16 is the one that has the issues. I'm using the 2.6.15 kernel. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:46 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: I downgraded the bug report on the kernel, but then I realized you might not be using the kernel I thought. Did you install 2.6.15 or 2.6.16? 2.6.16 is the one that has the issues. The installer installed a 2.6.15 kernel, as mentioned

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2006, at 3:34 AM, Daniel Dickinson wrote: Yes, I have filed bug report #375035. The kernel panics claiming that it can't find the root device, but the evidence is that it doesn't even *try* to use the initramfs before it does this. (no freeing memory message, for instance). As I

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:36 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Daniel wrote: Do you have any message numbers? Remember I've only started with powerpc debian recently, so I'm not one of the 'everyone' that 'should be aware of it'. Also, if you're saying that new powerpc users should be aware that

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:24 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 06:46:02PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 13 July 2006 18:20, Sven Luther wrote: initrd-tools used to be knoweldgeable about the root device, while initramfs-tools doesn't and you have

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-13 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 13, 2006, at 6:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 04:07:51PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Ok, so, do you have any roadmap for adding floppy support to quick ? And will quick allow to get cdrom support on oldworld machines ? Code exists. Needs debugging though

Bug#377747: tasksel dies refusing to install untrusted packages...

2006-07-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 12, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jul 11, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 23:43, Rick Thomas wrote: Interestingly enough, I just tried this with the corresponding BusinessCard image and it worked just fine. Could it be that the first time you

Re: OldWorld Mac-specific problems; perhaps drop?

2006-07-12 Thread Rick Thomas
For what it's worth, I just succeeded in installing Etch using the July 10th daily businesscard image on my Beige G3 (OldWorld PowerMac) test machine. I started with the July 11th miBoot floppys from Wouter. I skipped the quik installation step because I need to use BootX as my eventual

Bug#377747: tasksel dies refusing to install untrusted packages...

2006-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 10, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports Description of the install, in prose, and any thoughts, comments and ideas you had during the initial install. Tasksel died refusing with it's last breath to install untrusted packages. Earlier

Bug#377747: tasksel dies refusing to install untrusted packages...

2006-07-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 11, 2006, at 6:10 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 11 July 2006 23:43, Rick Thomas wrote: Interestingly enough, I just tried this with the corresponding BusinessCard image and it worked just fine. Could it be that the first time you tried during a mirror sync? That could maybe

Bug#377747: tasksel dies refusing to install untrusted packages...

2006-07-10 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Boot method: How did you boot the installer? CD? floppy? network? Image version: Full URL to image you downloaded is best Date: Date and time of the install CD -- netinst Index of /cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd Name

Re: HACKALERT - partman-crypto-placeholder (was: d-i memory requirements)

2006-07-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jul 1, 2006, at 4:00 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Saturday 01 July 2006 17:53, Frans Pop wrote: I've drawn some conclusions for myself based on this data, but am curious what others think. Here's one of the ideas I had to reduce the current memory requirements of the installer. Instead of

Bug#258908: partitioning works now, can we close this bug?

2006-06-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 28, 2006, at 7:17 AM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi Rick, partitioning works now, sarge has been released, can we close this bug? :-) regards, Holger Makes sense to me. Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Bug#375422: Boot failure with kernel 2.6.15 on G4

2006-06-25 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer I just attempted to install the debian powerpc daily businesscard iso from June 24 on my OldWorld beige G3 test machine, and got the same error. There's been some discussion of a set of patches that prevented this but got dropped from the 2.6.15 kernel. Is

Bug#373586: PMac install - probs w/ finish install

2006-06-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 14:24 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I can confirm this problem (finish install doesn't finish the install - just flashes the screen and returns to the main menu) when installing on a PowerMac G4. I saw it when installing directly from the June 12 jigdo DVD. I

Bug#373586: PMac install - probs w/ finish install

2006-06-20 Thread Rick Thomas
I can confirm this problem (finish install doesn't finish the install - just flashes the screen and returns to the main menu) when installing on a PowerMac G4. I saw it when installing directly from the June 12 jigdo DVD. I haven't had a chance to try the June 19th jigdo DVD just yet.

Re: [directfb-dev] [g-i]GTK 2.8.18 with directfb support packages [was:Re: [g-i] Graphical installer and PPC systems]

2006-06-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 20, 2006, at 10:06 AM, Viti Davide wrote: Note: I feel much anger in your writing... Yes, your message did piss me off very much indeed. Is it just me? It sure seems like there's a lot of this going around. Chill out folks! We're all in this because we think it's *fun*. If it

Bug#373863: Installation report netinst PowerMac (new world) printer administration not completely installed

2006-06-15 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports Boot method: How did you boot the installer? CD? floppy? network? Booted direct from daily netinst CD Image version: Full URL to image you downloaded is best Index of /cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd Name

Re: Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-07 Thread Rick Thomas
I just wrote: Ops! Typo! The 2.6.8 in the (hand-typed) quotation above is actually 2.6.15-1 Since this is likely to invalidate all debugging efforts up to now, I'm awaiting further instructions on what to do to provide additional information. I've added to the logfiles website the

Bug#370631: failed Installation report for etch daily 2006/06/05 netinst on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Severity: Important This is a failed Installation report for etch daily 2006/06/05 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3) Installing from the Debian testing etch daily 2006/06/05 netinst image on a beige G3 oldworld PowerPC Mac, using the BootX bootloader from

Re: Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Rick, can you send us a list of the dpkg -l of this system, and check exactly what did happen during the kernel installation. If you can provide us all the logs of the installation, or can do another one, it would be welcome. Friendly, Sven

Re: Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 6, 2006, at 6:18 AM, Rick Thomas wrote: On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Sven Luther wrote: Rick, can you send us a list of the dpkg -l of this system, and check exactly what did happen during the kernel installation. If you can provide us all the logs of the installation, or can do

Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 6, 2006, at 5:40 PM, Frans Pop wrote: (removing all irrelevant CCs; please respect the reply-to) On Tuesday 06 June 2006 12:18, Rick Thomas wrote: OK, they are here: http://www.rcthomas.org/~rbthomas/logfiles/ As there is absolutely no mention of 2.6.8 in this installation

Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 6, 2006, at 6:35 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 06:29:10PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: It's an oldworld Mac (beige G3) and I use MacOS-9/BootX as the bootloader, so I skipped the install quik bootloader step during the install (used continue without bootloader). That's

Re: Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 6, 2006, at 3:46 AM, Sven Luther wrote: reassign 370418 base-installer thanks On Tue, Jun 06, 2006 at 01:46:02AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: reassign 370418 initramfs-tools thanks On Monday 05 June 2006 09:13, Rick Thomas wrote: Begin: Mounting root file system ... ... Begin: Running

Bug#370418: failed Installation report for etch beta2 on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige g3)

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Installing from the Debian testing beta2 netinst image on a beige G3 oldworld PowerPC Mac, using the BootX bootloader from MacOS9... Everything went just fine until it came time to reboot. (copied by hand from the screen, so forgive any inaccuracies!): Begin:

Re: Bug#370373: Something is wrong in the daily build process for debian testing netinst and businesscard images

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Thomas
Good! It looks like whatever it was got fixed. Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: wget failing in a recent d-i build

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Jun 4, 2006, at 7:30 PM, Black Dew wrote: David Härdeman wrote: I've tried to downgrade busybox, but that didn't help, and now I'm running out of ideas...is anyone else seeing this? The error message from wget is: ~ # wget http://www.debian.org wget: www.debian.org: Unknown server error

Something is wrong in the daily build process for debian testing netinst and businesscard images

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Interestingly enough, though I first discovered this on the powerpc it's not unique to the powerpc -- the same thing seems to be happening for i386. Looking at the DebianInstaller/FAQ - Debian Wiki question 29 takes us to:

Bug#369760: Video problems installing etch on oldworld PowerPC Mac (beige G3)

2006-06-01 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Severity: Important I've been trying to test install the etch daily netinst CD on an oldworld Mac (beige G3) and I can't get off first base because I can't get the video to co-operate. I'm using the BootX bootloader under MacOS-9.2.2 Before I begin describing my

Re: end up with black screen and non-functional keyboard.

2006-04-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Apr 19, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 10:56, Geert Stappers wrote: I do feel simpathy for Ales Dolecek and all other users that end up with black screen and non-functional keyboard. So do I. And so do I. Moreover, Frans' reply was just plain rude. He

Bug#363331: Fwd: Re: Bug#363331: installation-reports

2006-04-18 Thread Rick Thomas
On Apr 18, 2006, at 2:04 PM, Frans Pop wrote: The Realtek device is a 10/100 UTP interface, which was connected to a 10Mb hub, which failed to work also. It was not till I connected to a 10/100Mb hub that the network started to work for the Debian install, so I suspect it was not supporting

Re: [g-i] dejavu 2.4.1-1

2006-04-17 Thread Rick Thomas
Take a look in http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/spellcheck/level1/latest/nozip/vi_all.txt There's a line with 24 of them in it that looks like this: - Việt\t\t\t\tAnh\t\t\tGiá trị giao diện\t\tinterface Hope that helps! Rick On Apr 17, 2006, at 9:58 PM, Clytie Siddall

Bug#269653: Old kbd-chooser bug on Oldworld Powermac: may someone try reproducing it?

2006-04-02 Thread Rick Thomas
I'll check it out next chance I get. It will probably be a week or two before I get time to try it. If that's too long, I'd guess you can close this issue out. I've installed several PPC machines (admittedly all more modern than the PowerMac 6500/225 in question) since then and don't

Bug#269653: Old kbd-chooser bug on Oldworld Powermac: may someone try reproducing it?

2006-04-01 Thread Rick Thomas
I'll check it out next chance I get. It will probably be a week or two before I get time to try it. If that's too long, I'd guess you can close this issue out. I've installed several PPC machines (admittedly all more modern than the PowerMac 6500/225 in question) since then and don't

Re: Debian-installer choose-mirror

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 16:16, Matheus Morais wrote: The d-i firsts steps of installation proccess are working well but in choose-mirror part d-i cant find the local cdrom repository to start copy files for the target. choose-mirror is not

Re: Debian installer + preseed + partman-auto + more than one target disk

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Thomas
How about this: Install to the hard disk, then after the first reboot, run a script that copies the root partition to the compact flash and does the necessary magic to make it boot from the flash. You can either leave the root partition on the hard disk as an emergency backup, or reformat

Re: Debian-installer choose-mirror

2006-03-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Mar 22, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 20:48, Rick Thomas wrote: On Mar 22, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Frans Pop wrote: On Wednesday 22 March 2006 16:16, Matheus Morais wrote: The d-i firsts steps of installation proccess are working well but in choose-mirror part

Bug#357188: Package: installation-reports

2006-03-16 Thread Rick Thomas
I've often wished there were such a task/configuration. It's useful for servers that normally operate without a keyboard or screen -- so I can ssh in and run things like xterm and a browser there when I need to. Rick On Mar 16, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Christian Perrier wrote: Standard

Re: your daily build of powerpc floppies

2004-12-11 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, December 11, 2004, at 01:22 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 12:50:21AM -0500, Rick_Thomas wrote: Ralf, Are you willing/able to install a small MacOS (8 or 9, not X) partition on these machines? If so, you can use the BootX bootloader. If you don't know about it, it's

Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-22 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 13, 2004, at 8:44 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: I got a chance to do an install from your mini.iso on a test machine. It's a G4 350 MHz (AGP graphics). I'm not clear as to whether this will install your test yaboot or not, but here's

Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Rick Thomas
wrote: On Sat, Nov 13, 2004 at 02:44:59PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2004 at 04:54:46PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: Then, for some reason I don't understand, it tried to install the quik bootloader. This is definitely a NewWorld machine, so it should have known better -- I would

Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 15, 2004, at 12:41 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Nov 15, 2004 at 12:29:09PM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: I was going to wait until I could try it with a normal image. I assume that this means I would not have encountered this problem then. So should I submit a bug report against monolithic

Re: Search for patched yaboot testers ...

2004-11-12 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 10, 2004, at 6:01 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 03:46:58AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote: The new yaboot seems to work at least on one of my machines. I'll try some others later. Specifically, I tried it on my BlueWhite G3. I booted holding down the C key (ADB keyboard

free miboot on OldWorld Mac

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Aug 11, 2004, at 3:44 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 03:12:49PM -0400, Rick_Thomas wrote: Here are a few practical suggestions: Has anyone looked at inside Macintosh or some of the other early Mac technical docs? I wonder if this code is, maybe, described there? The real

Re: Old world mac boot floppies

2004-11-10 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 10, 2004, at 5:25 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 01:35:04PM -0700, Wade Berrier wrote: I did have one idea: if you can boot a coff image from an hfs partition, couldn't you have an hfs /boot partition on the harddrive and boot directly from open firmware? If I understand

Re: Old world mac boot floppies

2004-11-09 Thread Rick Thomas
On Nov 9, 2004, at 3:45 AM, Wade Berrier wrote: One last thing I'm going to try is to replace the cmos battery. When I boot into the woody install, the time is set to 1956. I'll set it, and even still, the next reboot is 1956. I friend at work tipped me on this one. Maybe this will make it so

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, October 30, 2004, at 06:07 AM, Sebastiaan Molenaar wrote: On Sat, 2004-10-30 at 06:54, Rick Thomas wrote: snip /snip ROM compatible disk and CD drivers. b) They can put up with the vagaries of Open firmware and quik for their particular hardware. snip /snip Personally, I think

Re: free miboot - was Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, October 29, 2004, at 04:53 PM, Brad Boyer wrote: To support starting from just a Debian CD on all oldworld boxes as well as install a bootable system, we need to do the following: 1) Write disk drivers for SCSI and IDE (both HD and CD-ROM) 2) License the patches from Apple (or somehow

Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, October 28, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Brad Boyer wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:50:31AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I may be mistaken, but I believe that snip... Well, it's not really that simple. I'll try to explain as I go along in the message. snip... Thanks Brad! the extra detail

Re: unsuccessful installation on oldworld powermac apple 6400/180

2004-10-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, at 07:44 AM, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:33:45AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: As I've said before, if you can afford the disk space (big IDE disks are cheap) the boot loader that I suggest as being most robust and flexible is MacOS

Re: unsuccessful installation on oldworld powermac apple 6400/180

2004-10-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, October 27, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 01:44:06PM +0200, Wouter Hanegraaff wrote: Hi, On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:33:45AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: As I've said before, if you can afford the disk space (big IDE disks are cheap) the boot loader

Re: got quik working with OldWorld G3 Beige 233MHz

2004-10-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, October 25, 2004, at 01:48 PM, Sven Luther wrote: Notice that if we manage to free miboot, a miboot kernel on a special partition may be one solution for 2.6.8 kernels with initrd. The situation may be worse than we thought. Take a look at Apple Tech Note 1189 which is available at

Re: unsuccessful installation on oldworld powermac apple 6400/180

2004-10-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, October 26, 2004, at 03:18 AM, Hans Ekbrand wrote: After finishing the installation and rebooting, nothing happaned. The monitor warned Check the signal cable. Since the boot floppy worked alright, I would like to use it to boot the final system, instead of booting from hard disk. Is

Re: The best scheme to test D-I

2004-10-22 Thread Rick Thomas
Glad to hear there's another one of us (the few, the proud!) interested in helping test D-I on PowerMac hardware. What kind of machine do you have? Here are my suggestions: Leave some free space (I allow about 10 GB) to install your test Debian into. Plan to re-initialize this free space

Re: PowerPC Clone fails booting 2.6 d-i floppy

2004-10-21 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, October 21, 2004, at 11:23 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hey all, Trying to see what's on the 2.6 root.img, I've been unsuccessful mounting it as loop or the actual floppy. What filesystem type is it? I figured it was ext2, but mount says it's not. I've tried cramfs, hfs, hfsplus, but it's

Re: PowerPC Clone fails booting 2.6 d-i floppy

2004-10-20 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 19, 2004, at 9:40 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: So far, I've found a few possible options if I want to pass kernel args w/ boot floppies on this box: 1) Make my own miboot image - maybe a bit off track as I'm trying to test _these_ floppies; however, if I got that to work, my success might help

Bug#276826: PowerPC floppy root.img sizes

2004-10-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: debian-installer Begin forwarded message: From: Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat Oct 16, 2004 05:12:16 AM US/Eastern To: Rick Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Duane Cottle [EMAIL PROTECTED], debian- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re

Re: floppy root.img sizes

2004-10-15 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 15, 2004, at 11:16 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hi all, Sorry if this is the wrong list for this... I have been testing daily sarge floppy install images from http://people.debian.org/~luther/d-i/images/daily/powerpc/floppy/ for a few weeks on OldWorld Macs. That is, until October 8. Since then,

Re: 3 days till freeze of initrd contents

2004-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, October 5, 2004, at 08:11 PM, Sven Luther wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 07:57:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: The IDE controller that isn't working for Rick is driven by the aec62xx driver, off the PCI bus. This driver *is* in the appropriate udebs and *is* being loaded in the floppy

Re: adding an outdated warning to the installation manual for some arches

2004-10-06 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, October 6, 2004, at 07:43 PM, Joey Hess wrote: I guess the installation manual is still not fact checked or up to date for some architectures, like alpha, while it's in rasonably good shape for others, like i386 and powerpc. Since we're close to the cutoff point to being able to

Re: 3 days till freeze of initrd contents

2004-10-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 5, 2004, at 2:57 PM, Colin Watson wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 03:29:10PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: Mmm, i had a quick look, and it seems that your IDE controller doesn't appear in lspci output, so it is either not there, or not a pci device. In any case, maybe you should contact

Re: How do I get around small / partition?

2004-10-05 Thread Rick Thomas
On Oct 5, 2004, at 3:09 PM, Matt Bonner wrote: I assume at this point, I have to wipe the disk and reinstall, but if anyone knows of a way to resize the partitions, that would be great. That's what I would do in your circumstances. In any case, resizing a partition (even when possible because

Bug#274814: PowerPC 2.4 boot floppy doesn't see my IDE hard disk

2004-10-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /~luther/d-i/images/2004-10-03/powerpc/floppy-2.4 NameLast modified Size Description

Re: 3 days till freeze of initrd contents

2004-10-04 Thread Rick Thomas
Joey and/or Sven, Please take a look at Bug#274814: (PowerPC 2.4 boot floppy doesn't see my IDE hard disk) and reassign it to the appropriate folks (I'm not familiar enough with who does what to do this myself) so that there's at least a chance that it can be fixed before the initrd is

Bug#274628: OldWorld PowerPC Mac using BootX and 2.4 kernel from pre-rc2 businesscard CD - mostly successful - a few surprises.

2004-10-03 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image pre-rc2 businesscard CD = Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/pre-rc2

Bug#274615: Add CDROM fails due to broken symlink and no error notification

2004-10-03 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 11:02 PM, peter green wrote: once i realised what the problem was i managed to fix it by following the instructions in the error but im pretty sure the error was not visible for long (this was a while ago) in summary base config needs a waqy to avoid

Bug#274741: With two ethernets, installer looses which is primary across the reboot.

2004-10-03 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image === Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/pre-rc2 Name Last modified Size

Bug#274516: [powerpc] [pre-rc2] [floppy] oldworld ppc 7300 failure

2004-10-02 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, October 2, 2004, at 08:24 AM, Fabian Linzberger wrote: detailed diagnosis: floppy/boot.img: bootloader seems to work fine, soon as the penguin logo and the linux bootmessages should come up, display is completely garbled. floppy/ofonlyboot.img: bootloader seems to work fine, penguin

Re: Bug#273986: Quasi-successful Installation - Sarge netinst rc1 on Beige G3

2004-09-30 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 30, 2004, at 12:11 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Hi Rick, Sure does. I spent five hours reading your posts since March today. I take that as the highest of compliments. (-8) Thank you, sir! It's already saved me a lot of trouble testing this stuff. Been working with boot floppies

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 01:30 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, However... There is one important thing missing from the boot disks. Specifically, the System file is zero length. This is true of both boot and ofonlyboot for both 2.4 and 2.6. It won't boot that way. Arg, again. I have to

Re: Bug#273986: Quasi-successful Installation - Sarge netinst rc1 on Beige G3

2004-09-29 Thread Rick Thomas
On Wednesday, September 29, 2004, at 02:56 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: Partition notes: As I was playing around in the partitioner, I decided to delete the 32.2K partion #1 on the scsi drive called Apple. After the partitions were displayed once again on the screen, I noticed a 32.2K hole on the IDE

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
at 04:40:16PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I've submitted several bug reports on this topic. The developers know about it, and may fix it sometime. It's not as easy to fix as it sounds, because the mesh controller is not on the regular PCI bus, so the normal hardware discovery

Re: oldworld-ppc: quik, initrd, bootx manual (was Re: timeline for next month and next two releases)

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
Holger Levsen wrote: conclusions --- i think i should file the following bug reports, i will do this tonite if there are no objections: snip - document the use of bootx in the manual (with link to mac os 7.5 installation disks) Remember that MacOS 7.5 doesn't work on all

Re: oldworld-ppc: quik, initrd, bootx manual (was Re: timeline for next month and next two releases)

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Tuesday, September 28, 2004, at 07:19 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: Hi, Remember that MacOS 7.5 doesn't work on all models of OldWorld Mac. Folks should check the matrix on this Apple web page: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=8970 Oh no! ;-) But maybe that's got information for the

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-28 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:49 PM, Colin Watson wrote: After my changes, there's *loads* of room left for things. We were just being inefficient, that's all. Well, I just took a look at the latest floppy images. It looks like everything that's there fits with room to spare -- in some

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-27 Thread Rick Thomas
On Monday, September 27, 2004, at 04:40 PM, Joey Hess wrote: Rick Thomas wrote: I've submitted several bug reports on this topic. The developers know about it, and may fix it sometime. It's not as easy to fix as it sounds, because the mesh controller is not on the regular PCI bus, so the normal

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
Hi Duane, Did you install a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? The 2.6 kernel requires an initial ramdisk. The 2.4 kernel (usually) does not. The kernel installer leaves a kernel and a tailored initrd in the /boot partition. You need to copy them into the appropriate places inside the MacOS System folder

Re: Sarge on OldWorld Mac - No root device

2004-09-26 Thread Rick Thomas
On Sunday, September 26, 2004, at 08:34 AM, Duane Cottle wrote: I'm going to start another thread concerning the fact that my scsi hard drive wasn't detected during the entire installation. You probably have a mesh SCSI controller. Almost all OldWorld Apple machines had them. Early on in the

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:13 AM, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Sep 24, 2004 at 01:50:34AM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: ROOT-2) The root-2 floppy is a bunch of udebs for all the components that wouldn't fit on root. [This is a good design, but it requires that root have everything needed

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-25 Thread Rick Thomas
On Saturday, September 25, 2004, at 04:49 PM, Colin Watson wrote: Bringing things back into sync with other architectures is worth it on its own, and reducing the number of floppies required for an installation was one of the original goals of d-i. After my changes, there's *loads* of room left

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 06:13 PM, Sven Luther wrote: I wrote: I understand the size constraints. But isn't that the reason why we added the root-2 floppy? Would adding hfs and/or hfsplus kick us over the edge into root-3 land? We could indeed add it to root-2, but i would prefer to

Re: Oldworld Serial Console

2004-09-24 Thread Rick Thomas
On Friday, September 24, 2004, at 09:17 AM, Gregory Seidman wrote: In fact, I can attest to using an ordinary Mac printer cable between my Oldworld Mac running Linux and my dual G4 with a Keyspan adapter and running MacOS X. I use minicom on the Mac and have set up quik, not BootX, to allow me to

NewWorld Blue White Mac Powerpc install -- problems with firewire and aec62xx driver.

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
Package: installation-reports INSTALL REPORT Debian-installer-version: Fill in date and from where you got the image Index of /pub/cdimage-testing/daily/powerpc/current Name Last modified Size Description

Bug#272967: Acknowledgement (NewWorld Blue White Mac Powerpc install -- problems with firewire and aec62xx driver.)

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
I forgot to add: Note 5: Several times during the installation, I got an error message telling me that some modules were not loaded because they could not be found: ide-mod, ide-probe-mod, ide-detect, ide-generic Note 6: I installed the same netinst CD on my beige G3 tower, using BootX

Re: No HFS driver, and change install priority menu option missing -- and other bugs found while testing 2.4 boot floppies on OldWorld PowerMac

2004-09-23 Thread Rick Thomas
On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 11:02 AM, Sven Luther wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 05:05:58PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: Package: installation-reports In addition to the already noted problems with 2.4 PowerPC boot floppies, I have two requests for modules to be included on the root or root-2

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