On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 08:32:33PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 01 June 2007 20:22, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Sad to see you go, and sad that debian failed in mediating this in a
> > way which allowed us both to have fun. Let this be a lection to the
> > future, of th
i sent your way,
Sad to see you go, and sad that debian failed in mediating this in a way
which allowed us both to have fun. Let this be a lection to the future,
of the hurt that pride can cause to all involved and bystanders.
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> not a developer)
Make sure you grab a copy of the moiboot packages from
http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot, before they get erased.
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er did his job correctly, or use the
rescue menu item.
If the d-i folk had not been so much preocuped with their witch-hunt,
this kind of problems would not be happening.
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e involved here just even knew the meaning of
compasion and plain common sense, we would all happily be coding since
over a year now.
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On Wed, May 23, 2007 at 06:09:16PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 03:31:46AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote:
> >
> > You are wrong, this is an issue pertaining to the whole of debian, who
> > chose to let the DAMs punish me, while knowing this was unfair, wh
are wrong, this is an issue pertaining to the whole of debian, who
chose to let the DAMs punish me, while knowing this was unfair, while
everyone with the least sense of decency would notice that people like
Geert or Holger, or Frans, deserved the same or worse punishment.
Shame on Debian, Shame on what you have all done to it,
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a couple of
others could absolutely not live without forcing debian to act fairly in
this.
See what you have done to debian by your arrogance and stubborness ? You
have forced debian to no more be something beautiful to be proud of, but
something unfair and ugly, to be ashamed of.
Shame on you,
ewhere for a while, ok ?
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whatsoeve, just information about what the default option can be, but it
can be overriden.
Notice also, that stdin and stdout, should be two devices wxhich can be
used to actually output and input infor
properties, which is what should be used on CHRP for this kind of
things, and is also said to be so in the CHRP spec.
If you don't believe me, or otherwise ignore me, just ask someone with a
clue on this and they will tell you so.
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> > workaround possible.
>
> you can use apt-proxy. see p.d.o/apt-proxy
Or approx,
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that package is named) are the one doing the OF path from linux path
mapping. Not sure it supports the other way around, but that would be
the right way to handle this.
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> or does that file just not exist in that case?
Frans, forget about those existential questions.
/proc/device-tree/chosen is what you want. It will contain a copy of all
the relevant information used during booting, provided to you by the
underlying firmware.
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ernel command line does desactivate the hvc output.
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Just an entry point, which may or may not be important here. Sun has
decided to make grub2 the default for opensolaris, including their
powerpc opensolaris port.
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, we intend to drop grub from archive since it's a bunch
> of patches difficult to maintain and hard to follow.
>
> Thoughts?
I wonder if we will also move from yaboot-installer to grub2-installer
on powerpc, and if you have given any thought to that migration path ?
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On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 01:36:52PM -0300, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 03:09:37PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> >> Hi guys. I wonder if you could update us on the current status of d-i
> >> for the
entatives to solve this lamentable dispute, rejecting
even a RL meeting at FOSDEM, responding by an active role in the
expulsion request, it is probably a bit hypocrit of you to ask about
this, especially given the further punishing decision of the DAMs about
this.
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On an x86 system (actually two different boards, and older athlon 1.2Ghz based
via board, and a newer tyan nforce based opteron board, when there are no ide
disks (except the cdrom drive), nor floppy driver connected, but only scsi or
sata disks, the di
t for
reasons you can imagine, i was forced to not pursue this, and so ...
There was a wiki page somewhere, mayb e Attilio or Eddy can give you the link,
it would be good to add your hardware there, and do a followup on those tests,
and see why directfb/directfb-gtk is failing on this hardware.
Fr
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:09:29PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:37:31PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > for those who care about debian, and not only for their own private feud :
>
> > 17:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-boot was synced in 1 secs
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 12:09:29PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 05:37:31PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> > for those who care about debian, and not only for their own private feud :
>
> > 17:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-boot was synced in 1 secs
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 07:30:41PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> On 12-03-2007 at 17:37 wrote Sven Luther:
> under Subject: problems with tyan thunder n3600B board, where are the netboot
> x86 images ?
>
> > Well,
> >
> > for those who care about debian, and not o
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:32:32PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Monday 12 March 2007 17:37, Sven Luther wrote:
> > 17:19 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-boot was synced in 1 secs
> > 17:19 < svenl> ah, nice, i am no more banned :)
> > 17:20 < fjp> svenl: Sorry, but
oot [+b [EMAIL PROTECTED] by fjp
17:22 -!- svenl was kicked from #debian-boot by fjp [fjp]
Anyone has any kind of experience with those tyan boards and see this same
problem ?
And could it be possible to restore the non-iso images links to the web site ?
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I wanted to test a d-i daily build netboot image on this tyan motherboard,
which seems to have some sata driver troubles, but was unable to find the
netboot images on the web site anymore. Only iso links remain, please fix
this.
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ony and go back to hacking
happily ever after.
[0] - http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2007/01/msg00068.html
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RAID1 partition, namely
/dev/sd[ab]3.
This leaves the system unbootable on a reboot, thus the severity of this bug
report.
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utely nothing in reproducing this which needs
powermac hardware to test, and i am sure that i can even be reproduced in
quemu or vmware.
You just need to chose a mac partition table, and you will face this bug.
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On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:52:12AM +0100, David Härdeman wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 10:52:39AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> >Next step would be :
> >
> > 1) write a program writing to stdout and dropping the actual error message
> > somewhere.
>
> How abou
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 11:11:45AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jan 26, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > 1) write a program writing to stdout and dropping the actual error message
> > somewhere.
> Just add something like this to the top of
rk on it, and see if the machine is stable with yaird and
without udev.
More to this once i have the box back, and am back from the Solution Linux
show in paris.
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I will investigate this first chance in february, and provide feedback in the
bug report.
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es, or something. I will try to reproduce his on pegasos
and its amiga partition tables, which are in the same case as the mac
partitions.
partman actually *ERASES* the raid flag set by hand by parted, which is rather
strange, and hints strongly at some problem in partman-md (but also possibly
mirrored
ell,
erased the flag i guess).
It would be really helpful if this could be reproduced on an x86 box, with a
mac partition table (expert mode, chose pmac as partition table format for the
disk).
So, unless i made a mistake, i confirm that this bug is still present.
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 06:02:06PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Friday 12 January 2007 17:10, Sven Luther wrote:
> > reopen 392764
> > # Clueless closing of this bug, probably due to a confusion with
> > another, # separate, but similar bug.
> > thanks
> >
> &
dered RC these days, do you disagree?
What else is there to say ...
> Note for future reference: this BR is possibly related to:
> http://bugs.debian.org/392764
Unrelated, this was, to the best of my knowledge, a separate bug, which i
investigated and fixed, and colin had already fi
reopen 392764
# Clueless closing of this bug, probably due to a confusion with another,
# separate, but similar bug.
thanks
Frans, you know that i did open two bugs, because those where two separate
issues, right ?
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 07:03:46AM -0800, Debian Bug
erMacs, hold the
> >> +booting are PReP (with the exception of Motorola PowerStack machines)
> >> +and New World PowerMacs.
> >
> >Does this mean that booting from CD is known to work for other PReP
> >systems?
>
> I think that Sven Luther had contact to som
's safe to bypass this
# question.
bootdev_priority=medium
fi
fi
if [ -z "$PARTITIONS" ]; then
# error: no viable boot partitions found; fall over
die prep-installer/nopart 'No prep boot partitions found'
fi
With partman-prep/boot_partitions being
reopen 403031
severity 403031 wishlist
retitle 403031 Serial console detection should happen only once.
thanks
Sorry, this mail left due to a bad manipulation before i had time to finish it
or even review it :/
On Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 08:24:41AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2
On Mon, Dec 25, 2006 at 09:36:52PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 December 2006 23:07, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Err, can you tell me the risk of regression. Please speak the issue
> > with someone else, like Colin and Joey, or Bastian, and weigth the
> > actual risk.
&g
nstaller
> with "expert". I have limited patience for people who think they are
> experts and are not familiar with man pages.
Notice that this option is also easily available by hitting "go back" once or
twice at the root password prompt, and then following the installation
no
can make the choice when booting the installer,
> by typing "install tasks=kde-desktop"
Most people will not know about any such option, and when faced with the
normal tasksel selections, will only be proposed a desktop or graphical task,
which as far as i know will install only gnom
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:29:02PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The Efika (http://www.genesippc.com/efika.php) needs 2.6.19 based patches,
> > so
> > will not be supported, altough i have a d-i build using a modified
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 03:01:50PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2006 at 03:45:29PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Since i am going to reinstalll the XServe G5 which went broken last week, i
> > investigated why i couldn't boot from CD.
> >
> > It hap
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 07:05:46AM -0500, Rick Thomas wrote:
> Hi Sven,
>
>
> On Dec 20, 2006, at 2:16 AM, Sven Luther wrote:
>
> >What is really needed is for confirmation with the current kernels
> >that :
> >
> > 1) miboot booting works (or not).
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 04:23:34PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> package: release-notes
> severity: wishlist
>
> On Friday 10 November 2006 17:16, Sven Luther wrote:
> > We could also mention architecture support changes :
> >
> > - PowerPC: dropped support for
us what
works and what doesn't. And file a bug report against the kernel packages
(linux-2.6, title prefaced [powerpc,oldworld]).
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On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 03:21:11PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 00:30, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Please find attached a patch which does the finish-install detection of
> > a serial console, based on what was done in
> > rootskel/detect-linux-console
eature to have, especially now that
apple left the powerpc market.
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urn status of 1, but as said, running those scripts by hand is
perfectly fine.
Most baffling.
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 02:48:24PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 16, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Well, i never dealt with udev, i have not even the faintest idea where to
> > start, and the initramfs-tools or d-i environment i have to play wi
r source packages.
> I'm not sure if it would be possible to binNMU / force rebuild of
> those, but since linux-modules-* are maintained by the kernel team
> and loop-aes by myself, I think we could react quickly and rebuild
> them via normal sourceful uploads as well.
Why is loo
for other non-official
repositories too.
Please consider removing the security line, which will be present on each etch
install, or consider, after the etch->sid replacement, checking and removing
each line which is not valid, instead of failing like it happens right now.
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r nos services n'a ete detecte.
>
> From: Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Bug#403295: nobootloader: [powerpc] Please add efika support.
> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:11:26 +0100
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On Sa
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 10:05:24AM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-12-16 00:26]:
> > - powerpc/chrp_pegasos)
> > + powerpc/chrp_pegasos|powerpc/chrp_efika)
>
> This conflicts with #403295 which defines EFIKA as
>
On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:51:38AM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Op 16-12-2006 om 00:21 schreef Sven Luther:
> > --- src/system/subarch-powerpc-linux.c (révision 43393)
> > +++ src/system/subarch-powerpc-linux.c (copie de travail)
> > @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@
> > st
* the
disks where mounted. This affects both d-i (where the /dev/sd* are not
created) and initramfs-tools. Not sure if this is a similar problem or not.
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On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 11:21:53PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 15 December 2006 21:37, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Notice that the 2.6 sarge d-i image had a bug which was later fixed in the
> > etch/sid version. It has to do with calling mkvmlinuz i think,
fset=1
Index: debian/changelog
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--- debian/changelog(révision 42839)
+++ debian/changelog(copie de travail)
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+nobootloader (1.16) UNRELEASED; urgency=low
+
+ [ Sven Luther ]
+ * [powerpc] Add support for the Efika board.
+
+ -- Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
On Fri, Dec 15, 2006 at 11:21:53PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 15 December 2006 21:37, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Notice that the 2.6 sarge d-i image had a bug which was later fixed in the
> > etch/sid version. It has to do with calling mkvmlinuz i think,
Package: finish-install
Version: 2.6
Tags: patch
Followup-For: Bug #403031
Please find attached a patch which does the finish-install detection of a
serial console, based on what was done in rootskel/detect-linux-console.
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Please add support for the efika board to libdebian-installer.
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Sh
ce that the 2.6 sarge d-i image had a bug which was later fixed in the
etch/sid version. It has to do with calling mkvmlinuz i think, instead of
simply gzipping it by hand.
Holger, can you backport the little change from the sid branch, this should
fix it.
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miboot is not in main, and thus official d-i packages cannot be
done.
What is needed is a local build of the miboot floppies, and putting them up
somewhere unofficial, and replacing the official sarge miboot floppies by a
note pointing to these unofficial images.
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magic to make them autoboot. At least on chrp
boxes. I am nto fully sure, and i will try booting the image from disk, but i
guess this is the problem. It used to work like a month ago, so i don't know
what happened here.
Colin, you are the expert on this, can you investigate ?
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o have some override of the TERM_TYPE
detection, in case of some new future serial console kind not catched by the
above rootskel/console-detect code, i don't know if this is already possible,
but this would be a separate bug report maybe.
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please), so i am early in the loop and can give you advice and fix those
issues first which are important to you. I am working on the serial issues you
are seeing too, but like said, i have gotten only second hand vague reports
upto now.
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2) mget *.deb
3) dpkg -i *.deb
4) apt-get source debian-installer
5) cd debian-installer-
6) apt-get build-dep debian-installer
7) dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -us -uc
Not sure if this will do it, but should be a good start.
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ther busy with RL work, so please ask this on debian-boot instead. In
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Wouter, Frans and Holger are those more involved in those matters, and thus
make sure they get involved.
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> a boot image failed". Has this worked for anyone else before on this
> kind of hardware?
Like said, i was never able to boot from cdrom, but i didn't try much. The
netboot vmlinuz-prep works fine, and this is what is the recomended
installation method on prep.
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On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:12:17AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 December 2006 08:30, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Frans, notice that yaird is still the prefered option for prep
> > machines, as initramfs-tools still is unable to detect the root
> > partition per defaul
e very recalcitrant with.
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On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 10:51:33PM +0100, David Härdeman wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 09:37:18AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> >Package: partman-auto-lvm
> >Version: 18
> >Severity: normal
> >
> >
> >Hello, ...
> >
> >I am doing a prep i
er using approx on another box of your network, it really speeded my d-i
testing turnover (by orders of magnitude, i am quite smitten by it).
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On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 10:37:31AM +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 10:56:36PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 01, 2006 at 09:47:26PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> > > So, some patience please. Hopefully this will be sorted out by early next
> >
PPC/PReP front. Thank
> you all for working together again peacefully.
:)
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installs been done recently ?
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On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 03:07:06PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > + if [ "$1" = powerpc ] && [ "$SMP" ]; then
> > + # 2.4 only has powerpc-smp
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 11:42:08AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
> reassign 401271 partman-auto
> retitle 401271 Separate boot partition not needed for prep systems
> tags 401271 + pending
> thanks
>
> On Saturday 02 December 2006 10:47, Sven Luther wrote:
> > Comments/Problems
On Sat, Dec 02, 2006 at 12:45:30PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Op 02-12-2006 om 11:42 schreef Frans Pop:
> > On Saturday 02 December 2006 10:47, Sven Luther wrote:
> >
> > > Now, about the workaround, currently you need to :
> > >
> > > 1) as soon
ep with dpkg -i.
Reboot. Try simply rebooting, if initramfs-tools fails at the finding root
stage, reboot, and at the kernel command line option prompt, add a propper
root=/dev/... entry.
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also includes a /proc/cpuinfo output of my powerstack II, for
addition into the kernel choser testing infrastructure.
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--- powerpc.sh (revision 42783)
+++ powerpc.sh (working copy)
@@ -9,7
, and this
would cause a time-travel loop, since the choice of bootloader is done after
the partitioning step.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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us some feedback on how
d-i works on it.
> >Also, note that you will need the -prep flavour, and no more the powerpc
> >flavour, since prep did not yet migrate to ARCH=powerpc (together with apus,
> >who is also disabled).
>
> Yeah, I know,
Cool,
Friendly,
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es,
especially powerstack II ones like the one Ulrich or myself has, and the daily
build 2.6.18 based images should work just fine.
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> So, some patience please. Hopefully this will be sorted out by early next
> week.
Actually, at a quick glance, it seems the daily builds are again present since
november 29, and there are nov 30, and two dec 1 builds.
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mlinuz-prep.initrd
You do have a powerstack II (in a beige housing) or a powerstack I (in a hifi
radio like black housing) ?
Also, note that you will need the -prep flavour, and no more the powerpc
flavour, since prep did not yet migrate to ARCH=powerpc (together with apus,
who is also disabled
> of finish-install to credit Sven Luther about the patch he submitted? I
> > > do not want to be pedantic, and I know that you modified and fixed his
> > > patch, but I think it would be correct considering that in the same
> > > changelog entry you already cite
esent in the powerpc64 flavour.
> levels and the filename suggest it's executed on all powerpc machines..
Ideally, a check for 64bitness could be added, altough i had some user suggest
that some of those modules would be useful on ibooks also. I am not fully sure
as i didn't investi
On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 12:17:07PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sunday 26 November 2006 15:09, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > currently shiping powerpc hardware are :
> > > > IBM pseries : not really supported, patch sitting without comment
> > &g
.
I would have appreciated if you had credited me for the abi bump, since i was
the one doing it, even though someone called "debian-boot" asked for a REJECT.
Give credit where credit is due, please.
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On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:00:01PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> Op 26-11-2006 om 21:11 schreef Sven Luther:
> > On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:41:38PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> > >
> > > Op 26-11-2006 om 15:44 schreef Sven Luther:
> > > > ... it can o
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 04:41:38PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
>
> Op 26-11-2006 om 15:44 schreef Sven Luther:
> > ... it can only end with me being totally destroyed.
>
> Fine, just continue with what you are doing.
And you would have played a strong role in this. But Fabio
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 03:18:57PM +0100, Geert Stappers wrote:
> That does remind me of a person showing scrafs of self inflected wounds.
> It took me a few days that she was actually telling "I'm now over it"
>
> Right now I'm seeing Sven Luther raging in an
On Sat, Nov 25, 2006 at 07:42:11PM +, Archive Administrator wrote:
> reject as requested by debian-boot
FRANS, CAN YOU PLEASE STOP THIS CONTINUOUS HARRASMENT.
WHAT DO YOU HOPE TO ACHIEVE BYY THIS ?
IF YOUR INTENTION IS TO DRIVE ME CRAZY, AND GET ME TO LEAVE DEBIUAN< WELL< YOU
ARE SUCCEDDING
as
it should be.
Frans:
My honest opinion of it: the biggest load of self-satisfied and self-centered
crap I've ever seen
FUCK YOU!
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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> reject as requested by debian-boot
>
>
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