Hello,
A new version of the script allowing the creation of bootable virtual
disks, with ext2, minix or fat12 fs and the GRUB (patched) is here:
http://corpus.polynum.org/admin/mkbimage
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HD (a script will be given to build virtual bootable
disks). More explanations will be given when the patches will be
published (on the GRUB list for the patches; on the 3 lists for the
explanations/HOWTO).
GRUB is the definitive BOSS! (BOotStrapping oS).
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ueing Partition Table. It might of some interest for
others. You will also find attached an example script that uses the
/proc/partitions to create the device files and then call `rescuept'.
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tem Linux maintainer, but if somebody wants it, just ask (gzipped it's
more than 50ko so I don't want to attach this to the mail.
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with a sub
onolithic kernel :-^) to link a
kernel with all the modules needed before booting. This would solve security
and access to the root fs as well...
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> saa9730 512 4401 PCI_DEVICE_ID_PHILIPS_SAA9730
> pmc551 512 4528 PCI_DEVICE_ID_V3_SEMI_V370PDC
Yes, these ones are not defined (and I haven't found the correct numbers in
http://www.yourvote.com/pci/).
And indeed, specifically for debian-installer, we must have a look to
ht
e bool though :
Linkers and Loaders
by John Levine, Morgan Kaufman
It seems to cover the subject [I will have one this week, so I'll be able in
the near future to say if this is worth or not ;)]
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 04:04:27PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Le Fri, Jul 27, 2001 at 02:44:44PM +0200, Thierry Laronde écrivait:
> > A multi choices installation can be made on El Torito CDROMs or, using for
> > example GRUB and a correctly configured ISD dhcp, via network.
computer: here
comes (or not) the user interaction, and all is done with enough room (but
still one must think to be efficient, and not waste memory resources or
time; the smaller the better).
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n in fact just boot from GRUB and access everything else from the
network, iff the DHCP server is correctly configured.
I don't think that anybody think we will/should drop the CD support ;) We
must just be able to do, also, something else.
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h different. But I have
time constraints and have to achieved something "quickly". All I'm trying to
do is to keep the solution as general as it can be, even if, at the moment,
I don't plan to implement some particular cases.
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On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 10:14:50AM +1000, Glenn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:00:41 +0200
> "Thierry Laronde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to write a "general purpose" script to build a general database
> > from the Lin
On Fri, Jul 20, 2001 at 08:13:19AM +1000, Glenn wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:30:41 +0200
> "Thierry Laronde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Just a summary of the principles I plan to use for, at least, my own stuff
> > and tha
t want to do something on my own, and do want to work with others. The
only problem is that I have some deadlines at work, and that I try to both
develop for a general purpose (d-i), and to address more peculiar and
limited needs at work ;)
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w the use of smallest databases.
What would be great too is to have a central place (there is
http://www.yourvote.com/pci/ for the IDs to name mapping; one can know other
db) to add the informations about PCI devices and drivers (one Debian db
accessible via network for example).
RFC
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Hello,
Just to say that we have installed a Woody with woody testing bf (network
install) and everything went fine.
The split to user level questions after the base install is definitively a
good thing.
Sorry ;) No problem here to report...
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> For installing multiple computers it's possible to use the fully
> > automatic installation called FAI. The Debian package fai has to be
>
> Can you provide an URL to link to?
And can you provide the URL about the presentation you've made in Bordeaux
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can also strip out the unneeded sections of the ELF format (namely
.note, .comment, .note.ABI-tag, perhaps others depending on what has been
put in the ELF file). Passing -fno-inline could save some other space.
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is the
best (0.2 is 68ko IIRC, statically compiled against uclibc), but for a good
interactive and small shell, pdksh seems great...
Conclusion (2) : I have learned some things about BSD, uclibc and glibc by
fixing ash source, but, altogether, it was not worth the effort.
FYI
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-rwxr-xr-x1 thierry thierry200288 jun 12 10:17 sh
* Dynamic, against uClibc with old termcap (libedit.so):
-rwxr-xr-x1 thierry thierry 96868 jun 12 10:20 sh
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On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 08:27:09PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Thierry Laronde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > For historic, it's for convenience for the user. This is sugar, but if sugar
> > can be included without a huge cost, it's worth trying.
>
>
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 09:30:13AM +0200, Thierry Laronde wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 11:40:06PM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> >
> > Can someone remind me what is the benefit of having
> > Ash + historic + uClibc +static ?
> >
> > We're trying to sa
s is for "after", and the fact
that this succeeded may be of some interest for others, even if they don't
have enough space to put the historic (cost 18xKo at the moment; I will work
to reduce that and try to obtain a "static compiled against uClibc ash with
historic&qu
t the moment to show. But work is under
progress to be tidy enough to share ;)
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ndencies, even if, with the very same packages, they do not always
behave the very same way. IMHO, the logic must be handle by _one_ module,
the other ones being functionnalities added --- and easier to implement.
But YMMV.
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On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote:
> Thierry Laronde schrieb:
> > level of package = max {level of dependencies} + 1
>
> > The install tools simply has to install packages in increasing level
> > numbers. All packages having the same level can
nsions.
So the question.
At your knowledge, will dpkg or other tools parsing the available file
complain if there are supplementary fields in this file? like:
Level:
Fqpn:
and so on ?
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On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 10:28:49PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 09:20:25PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> > > Ok, im starting to see its advantages now. (i think)
> > >
> > > Are all the the differ
evel 1 and package C be at level 2, if
> so how do you represent that B needs to be pre-installed rather than
> just installed ?
Since level 1 is installed before level 2, B which is level 1 will be
installed automatically before C (which is level 2). There is no more
distinction neede
On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 07:33:29PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> >
> > So the Level is computed _at build time_. A package depending on packages
> > that can be built (they depend on packages which Level can not be computed)
> > can
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 02:18:29PM +0200, Thierry Laronde wrote:
> If a Level is not set, the Level computed which depends on that level is not
> set neither :
>
> Level=
> maxlevel=
> for package in dependencies
> do
> level=`get_Level $package`
> if [ -
On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 02:00:30PM +0200, Arthur Korn wrote:
> Thierry Laronde schrieb:
> > level of package = max {level of dependencies} + 1
>
> > The install tools simply has to install packages in increasing level
> > numbers. All packages having the same level can
, the same way IP are handled :
1.9.3.4 => 17167369
and then handle that simply with -eq, -lt or -gt etc... This stuff being
made by the packaging tool, not at install time.
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On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:43:53PM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Thierry Laronde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > There is an history buffer too in ash, but it is not compiled by default. I
> > do think that BB is great for all of that, but at the moment I need mainly
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 06:41:46PM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> > Yep. There are several ideas in FreeBSD that I do like [I don't know if you
> > remember but last year, there was a thread about the need for a "static
> > shell
ernatives to choose from if people who
want to work on something can not agree. The worst would be to sterilize all
efforts by fighting endlessly about the aims. It would not be a good idea to
change everything now for di. But it is not a bad idea to work on something
slightly different : if noth
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 01:13:35AM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> > It could seem that I'm reinventing the wheel, but I have found that even
> > when facing a huge task, it takes me less time to do it by myself than
> > trying to
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 01:08:39AM +1000, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> > BTW, I have designed a new packaging system, with a new package format, that
> > could be a proposal for a common basis for other packaging system.
> >
>
> Id be in
ould seem that I'm reinventing the wheel, but I have found that even
when facing a huge task, it takes me less time to do it by myself than
trying to convince others that it is worth working on it /*sigh*/.
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htt
g on an ARM port ATM).
Unfortunately I have no skills on, say, alpha, but hope that people having
this kind of knowledge will help the uClibc team. This is definitively worth
the effort. Yes : great job !
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or a server (this is the server which
takes the "decisions", builds the ad hoc kernels and root fs, the
installation OS having to retrieve, via tftp --- in BB --- and installs the
files).
But I think indeed that, in the future, if we need more complex programs,
trying to compile t
eas...
We make today a fresh install of potato on a new machine. The same phase is
absolutely slow. But this didn't happen on "old" machines. Seems to have
something to do with UDMA, even if UDMA is 66 on the machine and not 100.
FWIW, this is a 20Go disk. What do you have ?
' emulation far better and far easier to use than, say, `ae';
Has anybody tried to compile other utilities with uClibc ?
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FWIW, on the 10th of april has been released a version of Busybox including
a 22k vi. Perhaps, in the future, the end of the small editors wars ;)
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 09:57:02AM -0400, Adam Di Carlo wrote:
> Thierry Laronde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > FWIW, I, as a french native speaker, do not consider that Debian has to try
> > to put all the message catalogs for all the languages in floppies. It wou
uot;local" debianers or CDs suppliers to
localize the bf.
If this is already what is planned, sorry.
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GRUB as a bootloader and that bootloader automatically
gives the kernel a mem parameter, which confuses 2.4.x linux kernels. Try in
the GRUB menu.lst to add `--no-mem-option' to the kernel command.
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a way with
> boot disks..
If you don't have any floppy device, but do have a NIC, you can use a
bootloader, like etherboot or GRUB, to boot via the network. There is no
difference : you boot the kernel used for the install, and the initrd.
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On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 08:34:38PM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote:
> Thierry Laronde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Has anybody some experience with the possibility of using compressed files
> > on the fly with ext2 or iso9660 ?
>
> If it's readonly, why not try
anybody some hints about that ?
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B size to 60 Ko, keeping the
ability to let the GRUB self-installable (once the appropriate files are
installable).
IMHO, we should go the GRUB way, since when the debian-installer is
officially used, GRUB will be "smaller".
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ito at all. I
> would _not_ expect that these systems would handle a hybrid format. Only
> the ones listed above.
>
> So back to the recommendation, one 2.88 floppy which is also used as the
> El Torito image, and 2 or more 1.44 meg floppies for floppy boot. Other
> sizes considered
or all the architectures
supported. At the moment, El Torito is only supported by PC and PPC, AFAIK.
>
> I suggest we stick with 1.44 as boot for PCs.
>
> We could use a 2.88 image for CD boot. In fact we should as getting to a
> "second virtual floppy" is not readily supp
thing special for El torito CDs : we shall be able to reuse the same
image.
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27;s corner on the debian
site, and browse the cvs tree.
If all you want is some images to test, there is a net-1440.img here :
http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/debian-installer/net-1440.img
But i have not tested it, and I might be wrong ;)
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that you've already done in order to
understand correctly where I can help.
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 05:15:32PM +0100, Thierry Laronde wrote:
> I don't if you have already looked at that, but there are already some
> scripts using the informations in /proc to find the kind of hardware
> installed.
>
> There are several scripts using Perl, and that&#x
o you want to use the information collected ?
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#!/bin/sh
##
# V.1.7 Dino Am
savedefault function).
Do you think that it is worth working on that for the use of GRUB+ extended
floppy format (1820 Ko) ?
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On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 01:09:33PM +0100, Eric VB wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 10:28:39AM +0100, Thierry Laronde wrote:
> > - Size of a floppy is the critic point. You can have more space on a HDD,
> ^
&g
On Tue, Feb 20, 2001 at 09:43:29PM +1100, Glenn McGrath wrote:
> Thierry Laronde wrote:
> >
> > - Size of a floppy is the critic point. You can have more space on a HDD,
> > by playing with the number of sectors. But you need to have a bootloader
> > able to id
tomatically, a rescue disk.
Cons : all of this stuff is, at the moment, very x86 specific. But the
floppies have to be machine dependent in some way...
FWIW,
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Hello,
I had not much time to follow discussions till now, but I have a great
reason to help : I do need something like debian-installer for the project
I'm working for at work ;)
So can somebody give me a pointer to the messages explaining the goals you
have defined for it ?
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