Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:49:40PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le mercredi 18 juin 2008 à 09:52 +0300, Eric Pozharski a écrit : > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > OTOH, aren't most of these

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 01:28:36PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 18 juin 2008 à 09:52 +0300, Eric Pozharski a écrit : > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > OTOH, aren't most of these choosing lilo over grub only doing so by > > > habit ? > > > > OTOH

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 18 juin 2008 à 09:52 +0300, Eric Pozharski a écrit : > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > OTOH, aren't most of these choosing lilo over grub only doing so by > > habit ? > > OTOH, aren't most of theses choosing emacs over vim only doing so by > habit? The

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-18 Thread Eric Pozharski
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: *SKIP* > OTOH, aren't most of these choosing lilo over grub only doing so by > habit ? OTOH, aren't most of theses choosing emacs over vim only doing so by habit? -- Torvalds' goal for Linux is very simple: World Domination -- To U

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 11:19:03AM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > We still very regularly get installation reports where people use lilo > > rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant user base. I > > would say that the

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-17 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there, Am Di den 17. Jun 2008 um 12:14 schrieb Peter Palfrader: > > >> AFAIK grub (at least the default "legacy" version) also still has > > >> problems with / on XFS. That's the one other case where D-I > > >> automatically falls back to lilo. >

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-17 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Jun 17, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Frans Pop wrote: > >> AFAIK grub (at least the default "legacy" version) also still has > >> problems with / on XFS. That's the one other case where D-I > >> automatically falls back to lilo. > > I

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 17, Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frans Pop wrote: >> AFAIK grub (at least the default "legacy" version) also still has >> problems with / on XFS. That's the one other case where D-I >> automatically falls back to lilo. > I think you mean /boot on XFS. Having / as XFS seems to wo

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Brian May
Frans Pop wrote: AFAIK grub (at least the default "legacy" version) also still has problems with / on XFS. That's the one other case where D-I automatically falls back to lilo. I think you mean /boot on XFS. Having / as XFS seems to work fine for me... Brian May -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email t

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
(Dropping d-release again.) On Monday 16 June 2008, peter green wrote: > >> I am wondering if it is a good idea to remove lilo entirely. At the > >> moment, lilo has been pulled from testing, and the code is in a > >> shape > > Can either version of grub handle all the cases that lilo can? D-I cu

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/08 04:19, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: >> We still very regularly get installation reports where people use lilo >> rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant user base. I

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
(Dropping d-release for this part of the discussion.) On Monday 16 June 2008, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > > We still very regularly get installation reports where people use > > lilo rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:57:32AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: > We still very regularly get installation reports where people use lilo > rather than grub, so it must still have a fairly significant user base. I > would say that the activity on the bug report shows the same. OTOH, aren't most of the

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread peter green
I am wondering if it is a good idea to remove lilo entirely. At the moment, lilo has been pulled from testing, and the code is in a shape Can either version of grub handle all the cases that lilo can? for example can either of them handle the situation where root is on lvm and there is no

Re: Considerations for lilo removal

2008-06-16 Thread Frans Pop
William Pitcock wrote: > I am wondering if it is a good idea to remove lilo entirely. At the > moment, lilo has been pulled from testing, and the code is in a shape That's just great. That means that whoever did this just broke an option that's been available in Debian Installer since forever: to