Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-26 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 08:06:39PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 08:20:56AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Frederik Schueler: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavours 2.6.x-y-amd64 and

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-26 Thread Francesco Pietra
What about k8-smp? francesco pietra On Monday 26 June 2006 07:58, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 08:06:39PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 08:20:56AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Frederik Schueler: -generic is odd and too long. I am

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco Pietra: What about k8-smp? Do we still need non-SMP kernels in the age of hyperthreading, multi-core CPUs, and preemption? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* Frederik Schueler: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavours 2.6.x-y-amd64 and 2.6.x-y-em64t respectively. Newer GCCs produce AMD64 code which is supposed to be closed to optimal to what GCC can produce on EM64T. Does it

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-24 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 08:20:56AM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: * Frederik Schueler: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavours 2.6.x-y-amd64 and 2.6.x-y-em64t respectively. Newer GCCs produce AMD64 code which is

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-18 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:47:56AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 15 June 2006 00:42, Frederik Schueler wrote: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavors 2.6.x-y-amd64 and 2.6.x-y-em64t respectively. So what do

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-18 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 11:15:13AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: So if you use amd64 now, then what will you use when amd releases an amd64 architecture chip called k9 that should have a different kernel than the k8? Same for em64t. I imagine the pentium-m derived chips will prefer

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-17 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jun 15, 2006 at 12:42:26AM +0200, Frederik Schueler wrote: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavours 2.6.x-y-amd64 and 2.6.x-y-em64t respectively. So if you use amd64 now, then what will you use when amd releases an

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Goswin von Brederlow: I would suggest keeping the name amd64-generic. It is easier for users to see that -generic fits all than -k8. It's also easier to reintroduce split packages if necessary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-14 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Goswin von Brederlow: I would suggest keeping the name amd64-generic. It is easier for users to see that -generic fits all than -k8. It's also easier to reintroduce split packages if necessary. And should not need changes in base-installer and

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-14 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:13:57PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: I would suggest keeping the name amd64-generic. It is easier for users to see that -generic fits all than -k8. -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-14 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 15 June 2006 00:42, Frederik Schueler wrote: -generic is odd and too long. I am considering to change the naming scheme completely, and call the flavours 2.6.x-y-amd64 and 2.6.x-y-em64t respectively. So what do you choose if you need a kernel that supports both? Both are

Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, with 2.6.17-final, I am going to drop the amd64-generic flavour. The reason is simple: On amd64, the linux-2.6 package has 11 flavours in total, which is way too much. The build takes over 5 hours currently, as each flavour takes approx. 30 minutes on my 2GHz opteron. I want to get rid

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Otavio Salvador
Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please point me to other places, where this will cause breakage, and I will help fixing it. AFAIK, you'll need to fix base-installer too. -- O T A V I OS A L V A D O R - E-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Joey Hess
Otavio Salvador wrote: Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please point me to other places, where this will cause breakage, and I will help fixing it. AFAIK, you'll need to fix base-installer too. Also debian-cd. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, with 2.6.17-final, I am going to drop the amd64-generic flavour. The reason is simple: On amd64, the linux-2.6 package has 11 flavours in total, which is way too much. The build takes over 5 hours currently, as each flavour takes approx.

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frederik Schueler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, with 2.6.17-final, I am going to drop the amd64-generic flavour. The reason is simple: On amd64, the linux-2.6 package has 11 flavours in total, which is way too much. The build takes over 5 hours currently, as each flavour takes approx.

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:12:00PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: amd64-k8 runs on em64t? Looking at the 2.6.16 sources, it appears that CONFIG_CPU_GENERIC sets all the cache size options of CONFIG_MSPC (em64t), and the only other difference is that CPU_GENERIC doesn't set -march at all. So

Re: Dropping the amd64-generic flavour

2006-06-13 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 07:12:00PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: amd64-k8 runs on em64t? It does, at least on the original nocona xeons, I tested it myself. Best regards Frederik Schueler -- ENOSIG signature.asc Description: Digital signature