Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-25 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on > > upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: > > It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had > a slightly older ve

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-20 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 10:16:40AM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: > >On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: > >> > >> The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses > >> console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a > >> gigantic

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:37:42PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on > > upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: > > It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:25:42AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > On this install, the noflushd problem didn't happen. So I did the > whole install at "high" priority. Thus, the debconf screens count is > exact. > > Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-19 Thread Joey Hess
Matt Zimmerman wrote: > This question should not be asked on a new install of libssl0.9.7, only on > upgrades. Looking at the postinst, it seems correct: It's possible that an upgrade was involved in the install, if the CD had a slightly older version. > if [ "$1" = "configure" ] > then > if

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-19 Thread Alastair McKinstry
>On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: >> >> The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses >> console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a >> gigantic mapping table in xserver-xfree86.config to translate >> console-data keyboard

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-19 Thread Anton Zinoviev
On 18.IV.2004 at 13:27 (-0500) Branden Robinson wrote: > > The main challenge here, as I understand it, is that d-i basically uses > console-data's paradigm for keyboard description. So what we need is a > gigantic mapping table in xserver-xfree86.config to translate > console-data keyboard descr

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-18 Thread Joey Hess
Christian Perrier wrote: > [1] exim4 is first configured when the package is installed but also > later when base-config runs its configuration again I don't understand the description of this problem. exim4-config is first installed by debootstrap, thus it runs in noninteractive mode, thus we

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-18 Thread Branden Robinson
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 10:59:33AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > The XFree keyboard was US layout while I had chosen a french layout > for the console keyboard during d-i. I think we need some closer > interaction between the console-* package settings and the xfree settings. This has been rep

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-17 Thread Frans Pop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Why don't you run through some old issues of Debian Weekly News? I remember having read most reviews from links included there. FJP -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAgQTggm/Kwh6ICoQRAv92AJ9aW74lHVrargN7nCbc91qvbl

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-17 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 09:55:25AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > > Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going > > through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good > > initial user experience is important for Debian. > > Speaking of which, I've been mea

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 11:52:01AM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we > are able to configure X almost every time based on the automaticly > detected HW info. I believe the X configuration by default _at most_ > should ask one qu

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 03:30:22PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote: > Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going > through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good > initial user experience is important for Debian. Speaking of which, I've been meaning to go th

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Fri, Apr 16, 2004 at 10:59:33AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > The display manager daemon is GDMwhile the default desktop > environment is KDE. This is kinda strange as the first screen users > see mentions "Gnome" while they boot into KDE after entering their > login/password?! > Ye

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Sam Hartman
Speaking both as a user and developer I'd like to thank you for going through this install and writing up your results. Creating a good initial user experience is important for Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040416 10:59]: > The XFree keyboard was US layout while I had chosen a french layout > for the console keyboard during d-i. I think we need some closer > interaction between the console-* package settings and the xfree settings. See #242605 and #238778.

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Petter Reinholdtsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > [Christian Perrier] > > Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-i > [...] > > xserver-xfree866 0 6 6 > > Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we > are a

Re: Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christian Perrier] > Package name Useful Useless Total fr-Translated Should use d-i [...] > xserver-xfree866 0 6 6 Why do you believe these 6 questions are useful? In Skolelinux, we are able to configure X almost every time based on the automaticly d

Full Debian install impressions and facts (another one)

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
This report is similar to the one I sent a few minutes ago but with some different test conditions. I had today a new server to be installed and got some time for doing some tests regarding a "normal life" Debian installation. The purpose was doing a "standard desktop install" test and see what ha

Full Debian install impressions and facts

2004-04-16 Thread Christian Perrier
(people in CC list, you're concerned by some parts of this mail, imho) I had today a new server to be installed and got some time for doing some tests regarding a "normal life" Debian installation. The purpose was doing a "install everything" test and see what happens, how long it takes, how many