Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-19 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 17, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: It may not be grave for the installer (indeed, you've already established at great length that it's not an installer problem at all) but that doesn't make it any the less grave for whatever

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-18 Thread Philipp Kern
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 02:49:47PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: It's almost certain that both the relevant package maintainer and the release team are already aware of this and that it has been a conscious choice to accept the breakage. Given that the package version clearly indicates it

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-18 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 18 December 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: While I did not take care about the fallout due to time constraints on my side, I did take a look at the meta-gnome2 migration back then. We did not place any approval hint but it seems that the multiple arch:all confused britney sufficiently so

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-18 Thread Luk Claes
Frans Pop wrote: On Friday 18 December 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: While I did not take care about the fallout due to time constraints on my side, I did take a look at the meta-gnome2 migration back then. We did not place any approval hint but it seems that the multiple arch:all confused

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 16, 2009, at 10:38 PM, Frans Pop wrote: Again, there is *nothing* wrong with the installer here. We welcome reports of issues with installations of testing, but issues with sid are seldom caused by problems in the installer. If you say so, I have to agree that there is *nothing*

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: I have listed several problems that exist in Sid and Squeeze, some of   which prevent successful installation (even though there is nothing   wrong with the installer). The problems in Sid are not interesting as they will fix themselves. What

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: I have listed several problems that exist in Sid and Squeeze, some of which prevent successful installation (even though there is nothing wrong with the installer). The problems in Sid are not

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: What problems exist in Squeeze? Here's the Squeeze problem (from my original posting in this thread): 3) When I install a graphical desktop environment with Squeeze using the above d-i images, I get a system that is missing almost all of

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 17, 2009, at 12:22 PM, Frans Pop wrote: (And please do not over-inflate the severity of bug reports: a desktop environment not being installable does not make the installation system unusable.) It may not be grave for the installer (indeed, you've already established at great

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: It may not be grave for the installer (indeed, you've already established at great length that it's not an installer problem at all) but that doesn't make it any the less grave for whatever package it does belong to. You've given me a few hints

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:39:39PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: This looks like a fairly likely reason: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/gnome-core For some reason the package was forced to testing even though it was not available on all architectures. If that is the reason, then it means

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: Given that the package version clearly indicates it reached testing by way of testing-proposed-updates, I think it's unwise to assume this.  Cc:ing debian-release for input on the uninstallability of gnome in testing. You're right, I missed

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-17 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Frans Pop wrote: On Thursday 17 December 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: Given that the package version clearly indicates it reached testing by way of testing-proposed-updates, I think it's unwise to assume this.  Cc:ing debian-release for input on the

Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Rick Thomas
Debian on PowerPC seems to be in trouble... 1) The daily d-i CDImage for PowerPC hasn't been updated since Dec 12th. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerpc/iso-cd/ 2) Even if it were updated, it still would not be possible to install Debian Sid on

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 16 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: 1) The daily d-i CDImage for PowerPC hasn't been updated since Dec 12th. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/powerp c/iso-cd/ That is only 4 days. 2) Even if it were updated, it still would not be possible to

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Rick Thomas
On Dec 16, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Frans Pop wrote: 2) Even if it were updated, it still would not be possible to install Debian Sid on PowerPC due to the lack of a linux-image package more up- to-date than 2.6.30. This problem has existed for several weeks. Why does that hinder installation?

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: The installation fails at the stage where you are presented with a   bunch of linux-image packages and asked which one to install. All of the options presented depend on linux-image-2.6.31-1, which   does not exist in any repo I've looked at.

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi there (reading from -powerpc). On Dec 16 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: Debian on PowerPC seems to be in trouble... I just purchased me a new (used, in fact) iBook G4 and this is the first altivec-enabled box that I have. It is also a bit faster than my other powerpc machines. (BTW, if you can

Re: Problems with Debian PowerPC

2009-12-16 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Rogério Brito wrote: I will see with Otávio what can be done from the d-i side of it (I'm not really up to d-i things, since I've been working with the main distribution instead of with installers). But I can try to look at it. I already replied to the original